# Pike's ghost *The Urth list — 1 messages, 1 voices, 04 Dec 2002* > Exported from an unofficial mirror of a public mailing list. Copyright > in each message remains with the person who wrote it. > Email addresses are obscured as `user at host`, the form the original > archive published. This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than > retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact. --- ### maa32 *04 Dec 2002, 18:38* I was thinking about the whole Patera Pike's ghost thing. Mr. Wolfe denied that it was Quetzal, and I wasn't sure whether Mainframe could project a saved image of Pike outside of the polar region. Anyone up for the idea that a much older Silk returned to his earlier life for a second while astrally travelling, as Horn returned to see Nettle while in the Pit? Could this explain the aged augur on the steps? Silk catching a glimpse of his future old self, as Severian caught a glimpse of his future old self in the past as Apu Punchau? Has the ghost of Pike been explained? I know that the ghost of Crane shows up at the end of Return to the Whorl, but can these ghosts be formed or maintained outside of the poles? Is there a better explanation? Marc Aramini ---