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    "note": "Exported from an unofficial mirror of a public mailing list. Copyright in each message remains with the person who wrote it.  Email addresses are obscured as `user at host`, the form the original archive published. This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact.",
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  "thread": {
    "id": 3660,
    "subject": "Nicknames?",
    "messages": 6,
    "voices": 5,
    "first": "2002-12-11T00:13:08+00:00",
    "last": "2002-12-11T20:34:12+00:00"
  },
  "messages": [
    {
      "message_id": "<urth-v0212-2385@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "ArchD'Ikon Zibethicus",
        "address": "zibethicus at hotmail.com"
      },
      "date": "2002-12-11T00:13:08+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Nicknames?",
      "in_reply_to": null,
      "reply_link": null,
      "blocks": [
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          "text": "Ummm...I just joined...are we supposed to be using Vironseque nicknames?  \nWill my existing name do - it is that of an animal...\n\nIs there a digest available?  I forgot to ask...\n\n->Zx<-\n\n____________________________________________________________\n\nThe proliferation of children who can reach the heights of computer creation \nbrings to light a basic feature of the computer itself - it is \ninfantile...[t]he microcomputer is above all a game and is infantile.  But \nit is also very dangerous.  We need to know whether it does not also \n'infantalize'.\n\n-Jacques Ellul, `The Technological Bluff'\n________________________________________________\n\nThe disciple Hui-K'e asked Bodhidharma, \"Please help me to quiet my mind.\"  \nBodhidharma said, \"Bring me your mind so that I can quiet it.\"  After a \nmoment Hui-K'e said, \"But I can't find my mind.\"  \"There,\" said Bodhidharma, \n\"I have now quieted your mind.\"\n\n-Charles Luk\n\n________________________________________________\n\nNothing exists except atoms and empty space; everything else is opinion.\n\n-Democritos"
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "message_id": "<urth-v0212-2387@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "William Ansley",
        "address": "wansley at warwick.net"
      },
      "date": "2002-12-11T02:54:39+00:00",
      "subject": "Re: (urth) Nicknames?",
      "in_reply_to": "<urth-v0212-2385@digest.urth.net>",
      "reply_link": "subject",
      "blocks": [
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          "text": "\"ArchD'Ikon Zibethicus\" <zibethicus at hotmail.com> wrote:\nUmmm...I just joined...are we supposed to be using Vironseque \nnicknames?  Will my existing name do - it is that of an animal...\n\nIs there a digest available?  I forgot to ask..."
        },
        {
          "kind": "text",
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          "text": "First, welcome.\n\nI certainly do not speak in any official capacity for the list, but \nthere is no requirement to use a \"Vironesque\" nickname unless you \nwant to; I have never used one. Your existing name is perfect, \nactually. _Ondatra zibethicus_ or the  Common Muskrat - you fit right \nin with Nutria and alga.\n\nThere is a archive of the list available at <http://www.urth.net/urth/>.\n\nIf you want to subscribe to a digest version of the mailing list, \nsend an email to urth-request at urth.net with the text:\n\ndigest true\n\nas the only text in the body of the message.\n\nRanjit Bhatnagar, the very generous fellow who is responsible for the \nexistence of this list in the first place has prepared a summary of "
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      ]
    },
    {
      "message_id": "<urth-v0212-2389@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "ArchD'Ikon Zibethicus",
        "address": "zibethicus at hotmail.com"
      },
      "date": "2002-12-11T04:15:32+00:00",
      "subject": "Re: (urth) Nicknames?",
      "in_reply_to": "<urth-v0212-2387@digest.urth.net>",
      "reply_link": "subject",
      "blocks": [
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          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "First, welcome."
        },
        {
          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "Thank you."
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "Your existing name is perfect, actually. _Ondatra zibethicus_ or the  \nCommon Muskrat - you fit right > in with Nutria and alga."
        },
        {
          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "That's the one!  In honour of Deacon Mushrat from `Pogo'..."
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "If you want to subscribe to a digest version of the mailing list, <snip> \nThis should be the same info you get via email when you join the list."
        },
        {
          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "Yes, thanks; I have now (hopefully) attended to this.  I either didn't get \nor didn't notice the E-mail in question when I posted the preceeding \nmessage.  I will try to poke around in the archives, time permitting."
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "I am looking forward to hearing what you have to say. You can't be any \ncrazier than the last few people who have joined the discussion."
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          "text": "Many would disagree!  (However, I suppose that's my cue for a tedious brief \nintroduction...)  I can tell a hawk from a handsaw well enough when the wind \nis in some quadrants, but only on some days...  I am an ageing, irritable \nrecluse in increasingly poor health, living in poverty with my young family \nin the Blue Mountains of Australia (which very nearly got burned a couple of \ndays ago in bushfires).  I was introducted to `Shadow' in the mid-1980s by a \nfriend who mistook me for an intellectual, and I immediately realised that I \nhad encountered a uniquely significant fantasy author.  I read `Shadow', I \nbelieve, in a single weekend session, and then immediately sought out the \nrest of the series.  The rest, as they say is history.  What more is there \nto say?\n\nOh, yes - I have kept in touch with the development of the Long Sun and \nShort Sun series, of course, as well as gathered everything else I can find. \n  I hope that they _never_ attempt to film the Book of the New Sun, but I \ncan see in my mind's eye a deluxe anniversary hardback edition sumptuously \nand strikingly illustrated by Barry Moser's beautiful woodcuts...\n\nOther authors whom I particularly enjoy include (off the top of my head) \nAmbrose Bierce, James Branch Cabell, J. G. Ballard, Louis-Ferdinand Celine, \nAmit Chaudhuri, R. A. Lafferty, Alasdair Gray and Jonathan Carroll.\n\nLook forward to talking,\n\n->Zx<-"
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    },
    {
      "message_id": "<urth-v0212-2390@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Alice K. Turner",
        "address": "aturner6 at nyc.rr.com"
      },
      "date": "2002-12-11T04:38:19+00:00",
      "subject": "Re: (urth) Nicknames?",
      "in_reply_to": "<urth-v0212-2389@digest.urth.net>",
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          "text": "You can use any name you like, but if you're going to be posting a lot that\nunwieldy sig is going to cause some annoyance.\n\n-alga"
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          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "Ummm...I just joined...are we supposed to be using Vironseque nicknames?\nWill my existing name do - it is that of an animal...\n\nIs there a digest available?  I forgot to ask...\n\n->Zx<-\n\n____________________________________________________________\n\nThe proliferation of children who can reach the heights of computer\ncreation\nbrings to light a basic feature of the computer itself - it is\ninfantile...[t]he microcomputer is above all a game and is infantile.  But\nit is also very dangerous.  We need to know whether it does not also\n'infantalize'.\n\n-Jacques Ellul, `The Technological Bluff'\n________________________________________________\n\nThe disciple Hui-K'e asked Bodhidharma, \"Please help me to quiet my mind.\"\nBodhidharma said, \"Bring me your mind so that I can quiet it.\"  After a\nmoment Hui-K'e said, \"But I can't find my mind.\"  \"There,\" said\nBodhidharma,\n\"I have now quieted your mind.\"\n\n-Charles Luk\n\n________________________________________________\n\nNothing exists except atoms and empty space; everything else is opinion.\n\n-Democritos\n\n\n\n\n_________________________________________________________________\nThe new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE*\nhttp://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail\n\n\n--"
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    },
    {
      "message_id": "<urth-v0212-2394@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "James Wynn",
        "address": "crushtv at hotpop.com"
      },
      "date": "2002-12-11T17:33:06+00:00",
      "subject": "RE: (urth) Nicknames?",
      "in_reply_to": "<urth-v0212-2390@digest.urth.net>",
      "reply_link": "subject",
      "blocks": [
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          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 2,
          "text": "\"ArchD'Ikon Zibethicus\" <zibethicus at hotmail.com> wrote:\n\nUmmm...I just joined...are we supposed to be using Vironseque\nnicknames?  Will my existing name do - it is that of an animal..."
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "William Ansley [mailto:wansley at warwick.net] wrote:\nI certainly do not speak in any official capacity for the list, but\nthere is no requirement to use a \"Vironesque\" nickname unless you\nwant to; I have never used one. Your existing name is perfect,\nactually. _Ondatra zibethicus_ or the  Common Muskrat - you fit right\nin with Nutria and alga."
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "I am looking forward to hearing what you have to say. You can't be\nany crazier than the last few people who have joined the discussion.\n<G>"
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        {
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          "text": "Crush offers:\nI second William's optimism and if you want a Vironese nickname  I can also\nsuggest that you merely shorten your last name to Zibeth or even Zibet which\nare other names for the civit cat.\n\nHeck you could even use \"Musk\" in that case which is also synonymous with\n\"civit\" (as president of the crazies, I felt obliged to offer that one ;-D).\n\n-- Crush"
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    {
      "message_id": "<urth-v0212-2397@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Dan'l Danehy-Oakes",
        "address": "ddanehy at siebel.com"
      },
      "date": "2002-12-11T20:34:12+00:00",
      "subject": "RE: (urth) Nicknames?",
      "in_reply_to": "<urth-v0212-2394@digest.urth.net>",
      "reply_link": "subject",
      "blocks": [
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          "kind": "quote",
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          "text": "Your existing name is perfect, actually. _Ondatra zibethicus_ or the\nCommon Muskrat - you fit right > in with Nutria and alga."
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "=20\nThat's the one!  In honour of Deacon Mushrat from `Pogo'..."
        },
        {
          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "Ah, bravo! Another appreciator of the great American humorists --=20\nmine own nom du Viron coming indirectly from Don Marquis, I salute\nyou, sah."
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