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    "source": "https://urth.darkrealm.vip/thread/urth/3670",
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  "thread": {
    "id": 3670,
    "subject": "names, Blue is Urth..",
    "messages": 1,
    "voices": 1,
    "first": "2002-12-13T04:10:48+00:00",
    "last": "2002-12-13T04:10:48+00:00"
  },
  "messages": [
    {
      "message_id": "<urth-v0212-2411@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "ArchD'Ikon Zibethicus",
        "address": "zibethicus at hotmail.com"
      },
      "date": "2002-12-13T04:10:48+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Re: names, Blue is Urth..",
      "in_reply_to": null,
      "reply_link": null,
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          "text": "Well, I'm quite happy to trudge along as Zibethicus if everybody else can \nlive with it - I have no wish to occupy somebody else's `muskrat'.  \nZibethicus might sound like a silly name to many, but I'm generally known by \nit on the Net and in divers other quarters.  So, can we live with that?  Zx \nor ->Zx<- will do for short...\n\nI judiciously snipped my sig., too - dunno whether I can live with changing \nit, but I'll try to remember to snip it.  Get stuck into me if I forget.\n\n`Urth is Blue' theory; as far as I remember, the Long Sun Whorl is stopped \nat the Blue/Green system for repairs.  There is no explicit statement of how \nquickly it was designed to travel.  I suppose that it is _just_ possible \nthat, given that it was sent out during Typhon's initial reign, several \nhundred years at least before Severian's advent as Autarch, if it travelled \nat an appreciable percentage of the speed of light, the Whorl would \nexperience some time dilation.\n\nIf I remember correctly, the inhabitants of the Long Sun Whorl apprehend \nthat three hundred years have elapsed since departure.  _If_ it was \ntravelling rapidly enough for time dilation to occur, their three centuries \nwould have been - who knows? millions of years by Urth standards.  Long \nenough, at any rate, for the people seeded by Severian's activation of the \nNew Sun to evolve on the New Urth into, perhaps, the Vanished People, and \nthen to tactfully depart when colonists arrive from the Short Sun whorl.  \n(Any reader of Olaf Stapeldon knows that body forms can take on all sorts of \nother forms over the kaplas - and, speaking as an arthritic with a bad back \nand bad knees, I would put my hand(s) up for two extra legs anytime!  More \nstable...)\n\nThis putative lapsation of time would allow for the jungles of the Moon \nmentioned in the Book of the New Sun to evolve further into the gigantic \ntrees of Green.\n\nThat's one way to explain it, if an explanation is what you are seeking.  \nHow the Long Sun Whorl is, in that scheme, supposed to have found its way \nback to Urth I have no idea whatsoever.  You'd have to ask Mr. Wolfe...\n\n->Zx<-\n\n(bereft of sig.!)"
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