{ "export": { "source": "https://urth.darkrealm.vip/thread/urth/3678", "note": "Exported from an unofficial mirror of a public mailing list. Copyright in each message remains with the person who wrote it. Email addresses are obscured as `user at host`, the form the original archive published. This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact.", "addresses": "obscured as 'user at host'" }, "archive": "urth", "thread": { "id": 3678, "subject": "I recant. but I wasn't REALLY wrong", "messages": 5, "voices": 5, "first": "2002-12-16T23:47:10+00:00", "last": "2002-12-17T17:57:09+00:00" }, "messages": [ { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "maa32", "address": "maa32 at dana.ucc.nau.edu" }, "date": "2002-12-16T23:47:10+00:00", "subject": "(urth) I recant. but I wasn't REALLY wrong", "in_reply_to": null, "reply_link": null, "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Mr. Wolfe has weighed in. I don't know if I can even post about short sun \nanymore.\nI know the truth now :(\n\nGene Wolfe is far trickier than any of us could ever possibly imagine. Ever. \nNo one was right - all your reasons for Urth not being Blue AREN'T valid ones.\n There IS one valid reason it probably isn't Blue. I don't know what to do.\n\nIn regards to Urth in the old New Sun book, there ARE sentient trees on it! \n:) Maybe even cannibal trees. That's all I'm going to say. Good fishing. \nHoly crap. How could one man be so damned brilliant?!!! Merry Christmas, Marc \nAramini. Be careful what you ask for - you might get it. :(\nJust remember that I wasn't really, really wrong. Just kind of. But not \nreally. I don't know what to tell you. If anyone else comes up with the \n\"solution\" of the text independently, I will start posting again about Short \nSun.\nMarc Aramini" } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Don Doggett", "address": "harlekin at earthlink.net" }, "date": "2002-12-17T03:31:32+00:00", "subject": "Re: (urth) I recant. but I wasn't REALLY wrong", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "subject", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": " Marc wrote (in a confusing, intriguing, borderline infuriating way)" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "Mr. Wolfe has weighed in. I don't know if I can even post about short sun\nanymore.\nI know the truth now :(" }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Does this mean that Gene Wolfe actually told you the answer? Or did you\nread it somewhere? What what what are you saying?" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "Gene Wolfe is far trickier than any of us could ever possibly imagine." }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Ever." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "No one was right - all your reasons for Urth not being Blue AREN'T valid\nones.\n There IS one valid reason it probably isn't Blue. I don't know what to\ndo." }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "I think I know the answer to this but I don't know how to justify it or\nexplain the mechanics. What I would guess and what I've toyed with in my\nhead in the past is that Blue is Lune and Green is Urth. That's the only\nway I can see that you could be wrong but not really and only have one\nreason why Urth isn't Blue. Why Wolfe would do this and what it means to\nthe text I can't begin to fathom. Of course I could just be out in lala\nland." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "In regards to Urth in the old New Sun book, there ARE sentient trees on\nit!\n:) Maybe even cannibal trees. That's all I'm going to say. Good fishing.\nHoly crap. How could one man be so damned brilliant?!!! Merry Christmas,\nMarc\nAramini. Be careful what you ask for - you might get it. :(\nJust remember that I wasn't really, really wrong. Just kind of. But not\nreally. I don't know what to tell you. If anyone else comes up with the\n\"solution\" of the text independently, I will start posting again about\nShort\nSun.\nMarc Aramini" }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Breathe. Just breathe.\n\nDon \"the hound of the Baskervilles\" Doggett" } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "William Ansley", "address": "wansley at warwick.net" }, "date": "2002-12-17T06:28:14+00:00", "subject": "Re: (urth) I recant. but I wasn't REALLY wrong", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "subject", "blocks": [ { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "At 4:47 PM -0700 12/16/02, maa32 wrote:\nMr. Wolfe has weighed in. I don't know if I can even post about short sun\nanymore.\nI know the truth now :(" }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "It sounds like you were enlightened, Marc, unless it was just a brain \nembolism. " }, { "kind": "sig", "depth": 0, "text": "William Ansley\n\n-- " } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Nigel Price", "address": "nigel.a.price at virgin.net" }, "date": "2002-12-17T10:49:23+00:00", "subject": "RE: (urth) I recant. but I wasn't REALLY wrong", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "subject", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Marc wrote..." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "Mr. Wolfe has weighed in. I don't know\nif I can even post about short sun anymore.\nI know the truth now :(" }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "*Please*, Marc, stop being a tease and pass on what GW said to you! I for\none would love to know what on Urth the Short Sun books are about!\n\nCould you cut and paste his messages in their entirety and post them on the\nlist (sans e-mail address, of course)? Or could you post them to me\noff-list, if you would prefer?\n\nTo have lurked here so dilligently and for so long and then to be denied\nenlightenment is a prospect I find hard to face...\n\nNigel (clueless in the mud of Minety - but at least he now knows who has\nbeen moving the furniture around while he wasn't looking...Thanks, Don!)" } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Tami Whitehead", "address": "razorkittee at yahoo.com" }, "date": "2002-12-17T17:57:09+00:00", "subject": "Re: (urth) I recant. but I wasn't REALLY wrong", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "subject", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Mr. Marc, I am delurking, it seems you are in some\ndistress...\n\nI have only just started with the Long Sun, so am only\nguessing, but could this have to do with the green man\nin Torturer, who...well, you know...the plant thing...\n\nBack to lurking...\n\nRazorkittee" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "--- maa32 wrote:\nMr. Wolfe has weighed in. I don't know if I can\neven post about short sun \nanymore.\nI know the truth now :(\n\nGene Wolfe is far trickier than any of us could ever\npossibly imagine. Ever. \nNo one was right - all your reasons for Urth not\nbeing Blue AREN'T valid ones.\n There IS one valid reason it probably isn't Blue. \nI don't know what to do.\n\nIn regards to Urth in the old New Sun book, there\nARE sentient trees on it! \n:) Maybe even cannibal trees. That's all I'm going\nto say. Good fishing. \nHoly crap. How could one man be so damned\nbrilliant?!!! Merry Christmas, Marc \nAramini. Be careful what you ask for - you might\nget it. :(\nJust remember that I wasn't really, really wrong. \nJust kind of. But not \nreally. I don't know what to tell you. If anyone\nelse comes up with the \n\"solution\" of the text independently, I will start\nposting again about Short \nSun.\nMarc Aramini\n\n\n\n-- \nhttp://www.urth.net/\nTo unsubscribe: send \"unsubscribe\" to" }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "urth-request at urth.net" } ] } ] }