# I recant. but I wasn't REALLY wrong

*The Urth list — 5 messages, 5 voices, 16 Dec 2002*

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### maa32
*16 Dec 2002, 23:47*

Mr. Wolfe has weighed in.  I don't know if I can even post about short sun 
anymore.
I know the truth now :(

Gene Wolfe is far trickier than any of us could ever possibly imagine.  Ever.  
No one was right - all your reasons for Urth not being Blue AREN'T valid ones.
 There IS one valid reason it probably isn't Blue.  I don't know what to do.

In regards to Urth in the old New Sun book, there ARE sentient trees on it!  
:)  Maybe even cannibal trees. That's all I'm going to say.  Good fishing.  
Holy crap.  How could one man be so damned brilliant?!!! Merry Christmas, Marc 
Aramini.  Be careful what you ask for - you might get it. :(
Just remember that I wasn't really, really wrong.  Just kind of.  But not 
really.  I don't know what to tell you.  If anyone else comes up with the 
"solution" of the text independently, I will start posting again about Short 
Sun.
Marc Aramini

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### Don Doggett
*17 Dec 2002, 03:31 · follows maa32*

 Marc wrote (in a confusing, intriguing, borderline infuriating way)

> Mr. Wolfe has weighed in.  I don't know if I can even post about short sun
> anymore.
> I know the truth now :(

Does this mean that Gene Wolfe actually told you the answer?  Or did you
read it somewhere?  What what what are you saying?

> Gene Wolfe is far trickier than any of us could ever possibly imagine.

Ever.

> No one was right - all your reasons for Urth not being Blue AREN'T valid
> ones.
>  There IS one valid reason it probably isn't Blue.  I don't know what to
> do.

I think I know the answer to this but I don't know how to justify it or
explain the mechanics.  What I would guess and what I've toyed with in my
head in the past is that Blue is Lune and Green is Urth.  That's the only
way I can see that you could be wrong but not really and only have one
reason why Urth isn't Blue.  Why Wolfe would do this and what it means to
the text I can't begin to fathom.  Of course I could just be out in lala
land.

> In regards to Urth in the old New Sun book, there ARE sentient trees on
> it!
> :)  Maybe even cannibal trees. That's all I'm going to say.  Good fishing.
> Holy crap.  How could one man be so damned brilliant?!!! Merry Christmas,
> Marc
> Aramini.  Be careful what you ask for - you might get it. :(
> Just remember that I wasn't really, really wrong.  Just kind of.  But not
> really.  I don't know what to tell you.  If anyone else comes up with the
> "solution" of the text independently, I will start posting again about
> Short
> Sun.
> Marc Aramini

Breathe.  Just breathe.

Don "the hound of the Baskervilles" Doggett

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### William Ansley
*17 Dec 2002, 06:28 · follows Don Doggett*

> At 4:47 PM -0700 12/16/02, maa32 wrote:
> Mr. Wolfe has weighed in.  I don't know if I can even post about short sun
> anymore.
> I know the truth now :(

It sounds like you were enlightened, Marc, unless it was just a brain 
embolism. <g>

```
William Ansley

-- 
```

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### Nigel Price
*17 Dec 2002, 10:49 · follows William Ansley*

Marc wrote...

>> Mr. Wolfe has weighed in.  I don't know
>> if I can even post about short sun anymore.
>> I know the truth now :(

*Please*, Marc, stop being a tease and pass on what GW said to you! I for
one would love to know what on Urth the Short Sun books are about!

Could you cut and paste his messages in their entirety and post them on the
list (sans e-mail address, of course)? Or could you post them to me
off-list, if you would prefer?

To have lurked here so dilligently and for so long and then to be denied
enlightenment is a prospect I find hard to face...

Nigel (clueless in the mud of Minety - but at least he now knows who has
been moving the furniture around while he wasn't looking...Thanks, Don!)

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### Tami Whitehead
*17 Dec 2002, 17:57 · follows Nigel Price*

Mr. Marc, I am delurking, it seems you are in some
distress...

I have only just started with the Long Sun, so am only
guessing, but could this have to do with the green man
in Torturer, who...well, you know...the plant thing...

Back to lurking...

Razorkittee

> --- maa32 <maa32 at dana.ucc.nau.edu> wrote:
> Mr. Wolfe has weighed in.  I don't know if I can
> even post about short sun 
> anymore.
> I know the truth now :(
> 
> Gene Wolfe is far trickier than any of us could ever
> possibly imagine.  Ever.  
> No one was right - all your reasons for Urth not
> being Blue AREN'T valid ones.
>  There IS one valid reason it probably isn't Blue. 
> I don't know what to do.
> 
> In regards to Urth in the old New Sun book, there
> ARE sentient trees on it!  
> :)  Maybe even cannibal trees. That's all I'm going
> to say.  Good fishing.  
> Holy crap.  How could one man be so damned
> brilliant?!!! Merry Christmas, Marc 
> Aramini.  Be careful what you ask for - you might
> get it. :(
> Just remember that I wasn't really, really wrong. 
> Just kind of.  But not 
> really.  I don't know what to tell you.  If anyone
> else comes up with the 
> "solution" of the text independently, I will start
> posting again about Short 
> Sun.
> Marc Aramini
> 
> 
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