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  "thread": {
    "id": 3680,
    "subject": "How long, how long, has my little Whorl been gone?",
    "messages": 2,
    "voices": 2,
    "first": "2002-12-17T05:13:04+00:00",
    "last": "2002-12-18T02:55:57+00:00"
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    {
      "message_id": "<urth-v0212-2438@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Jeff Veyera",
        "address": "teflon93 at cox.net"
      },
      "date": "2002-12-17T05:13:04+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) How long, how long, has my little Whorl been gone?",
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          "text": "Don Doggett wrote:\n\nFair enough.  The thing I think that keeps me drawn to my theory is the fact\nthat Marble's internal clock is off by three thousand years (well 2,700)\nsoon after Silk's enlightenment. I know that's circumstantial evidence and\neverything is breaking on the Whorl, but it seems compelling to me.\n\nDon\n\nThat brings up another nagging point---with all the allusions to the fact\nthat The Whorl's been in space a lot longer than the inhabitants suspect,\nwhy couldn't Marble's clock be correct?\n\nThose chems seem like they were built to last, as was the ship.  It\ncertainly seems to me that it might take a lot longer to get as decrepit as\nit did than 300 years.  Some factors potentially weighing in here:\n\n1.  The fact that the cargo GREATLY outnumbers the sleepers.  Can't imagine\nthat this would have been the case from the outset, or shortly thereafter.\n\n2.  There are very few flyers left.  There had to have been a host of\nthem---would Typhon have taken any chances by undermanning the primary\npropulsion and heating system of the ship?\n\n3.  Marble is absolutely decrepit.  I find it hard to believe that an\nadvanced chem capable of self-repair and engaged in only mildly strenuous\nactivity would decay so soon.\n\n4.  The ship has been looted.  Cards have been currency for long enough for\npeople to forget what they originally were or where they could be found.\nSleepers have largely been exterminated or joined the cargo.  The embryos\nhave been pillaged.  The Ayuntamiento knows a LOT more than they should\nabout the ship and how it operates (not like they were given a manual when\nthey came aboard.)  All of this takes time, particularly when the original\ninhabitants were utterly ignorant of being aboard a ship and given that\neverything initially was provided for them.\n\nI'm left with the disturbing feeling that The Whorl was in space a LOT\nlonger than its inhabitants believe.\n\nWhat say the sages?"
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    {
      "message_id": "<urth-v0212-2456@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Don Doggett",
        "address": "harlekin at earthlink.net"
      },
      "date": "2002-12-18T02:55:57+00:00",
      "subject": "Re: (urth) How long, how long, has my little Whorl been gone?",
      "in_reply_to": "<urth-v0212-2438@digest.urth.net>",
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          "text": "Jeff wrote"
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          "text": "That brings up another nagging point---with all the allusions to the fact\nthat The Whorl's been in space a lot longer than the inhabitants suspect,\nwhy couldn't Marble's clock be correct?"
        },
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          "text": "Well, it seemed to be implied in the text that Marble's clock showed a lot\nsmaller number not too long before.\n\nDon"
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