# Black Sun, Wh *The Urth list — 1 messages, 1 voices, 16 Feb 1998* > Exported from an unofficial mirror of a public mailing list. Copyright > in each message remains with the person who wrote it. > Email addresses are obscured as `user at host`, the form the original > archive published. This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than > retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact. --- ### Tony Ellis *16 Feb 1998, 16:02* 16/02/98 09:37 RE>Re: (urth) Black Sun, White Fountain > Kieran Cleary wrote: > So to be explicit: It seems plausible that the black hole in the Old Sun is > *directly* connected to the White Fountain. Energy/matter exiting through > the black hole in the Old Sun appears from the mouth of the White Fountain. I love the economy of this theory, but... We are told that the White Fountain is releasing energy from another universe into our own. Also, In TUOTNS we get to see the White Fountain being created. Since this takes place in Yesod I would assume that this is the universe from which the fountain draws its energy. > Rostrum wrote: > Except I still obviously don't understand anything because if the world > Severian returns to is a whole new universe, then the Urth of the first > four books never gets a New Sun, it just dies with the old one. Severian doesn't return to a new universe. He visits a new one when he goes to Yesod, but the universe he returns to is the same old one he left. ---