DOORS: what city, please?

Michael Andre-Driussi17 Jan 2003, 01:16original

Hey Roy! (And everybody else.) What you think -- is the city of TAD the same city as the one in FLF? The city in TAD is: -- On the eastern seaboard. -- Far enough north that there is ice in the harbor (at least in Otherworld, iirc). -- Is the nation's capital in Otherworld but not in Visitor's World. . . . all pretty trace. But when Doctor Nilson of Visitor's World says "Last winter there was a blackout," it reminded me of the winter blackout in FLF (which was pivotal to that story). On a similar tangent, North seems to have been in Otherworld for 10 to 16 years of Visitor's World time: that is, he seems to have gone there circa 1972, and it is 1982-88 (break-up of Ma Bell and year of publication. So how many O-days is that? We are told that 4 O-days = 33 days (hc p. 171), hmmm, so each O-day is 8.25 days long. Ten years would be 443 O-days; 16 years would be 708 O-days. =mantis=

Dan'l Danehy-Oakes17 Jan 2003, 01:31original

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it is 1982-88 (break-up of Ma Bell and year of publication.

Just a data point: I was working for TPC at the time -- the official break-up was 1/1/84. If that helps. (There was a mini-break-up on 1/1/83, when certain parts of the national company became the "Fully Separated Subsidiary," but by "break-up" most people would refer to when the local companies were spun off as separate entities.)

Roy C. Lackey18 Jan 2003, 04:44original

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mantis wrote: What you think -- is the city of TAD the same city as the one in FLF? The city in TAD is: -- On the eastern seaboard. -- Far enough north that there is ice in the harbor (at least in Otherworld, iirc).

OTOH, in Green's world, "The city was far enough south that really severe winter weather was exceptional." (214) Yet the two worlds have to share the same geography. The bad winter in the Otherworld must have been a fluke.

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-- Is the nation's capital in Otherworld but not in Visitor's World. . . . all pretty trace. But when Doctor Nilson of Visitor's World says "Last winter there was a blackout," it reminded me of the winter blackout in FLF (which was pivotal to that story). On a similar tangent, North seems to have been in Otherworld for 10 to 16 years of Visitor's World time: that is, he seems to have gone there circa 1972, and it is 1982-88 (break-up of Ma Bell and year of publication. So how many O-days is that? We are told that 4 O-days = 33 days (hc p. 171), hmmm, so each O-day is 8.25 days long. Ten years would be 443 O-days; 16 years would be 708 O-days.

The numbers are inconsistent. When Green came back to our world it was April 15, 1989. (Based on the date 6/6/88 in the file on North that Green found, p-128. It was January in the Otherworld when Green left. After Yule.) April 16, he was put in the booby hatch. He got out during his second summer there (207-08). Then three Christmases went by after he went back to work. (210) The next February he was transferred to the uptown store. Sometime after Daylight Savings Time stopped, but before Christmas of that year (November, 1993?), he rediscovered Tina and went through a "door" in the arcade and was collared by the woman from the haberdashery. She had been holding the pants for "four months". (236) That would make it still May, 1989 in the Otherworld. Four months passed in the Otherworld, about 55 months in our world for Green. -Roy

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