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  "thread": {
    "id": 3772,
    "subject": "Small g, Big G",
    "messages": 2,
    "voices": 2,
    "first": "2003-01-19T06:33:21+00:00",
    "last": "2003-01-20T17:06:34+00:00"
  },
  "messages": [
    {
      "message_id": "<urth-v0301-2697@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "ArchD'Ikon Zibethicus",
        "address": "zibethicus at hotmail.com"
      },
      "date": "2003-01-19T06:33:21+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Small g, Big G",
      "in_reply_to": null,
      "reply_link": null,
      "blocks": [
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          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "Nigel thus:"
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "Williams is such a wonderful but odd writer, isn't he? I confess to an\nintense love-hate relationship with his books."
        },
        {
          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "Mystical, baffing and worth re-reading..."
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "If I may make so bold about such a complex and mystical book, can I \nsuggest that the primary thing going on in \"The Place of the Lion\" is \nthat the archetype of each of the nine orders of angels is let loose >in \nthe world."
        },
        {
          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "(bows) This is a much better way of describing it...my only excuse, which is \nnot a valid one, is that I was writing under conditions of some haste and \nlamentable fatigue."
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "Remember that the heroine's thesis in \"The Place of the Lion\" is - if >my\nmemory serves me - on \"Neoplatonism in the Court of Charlemagne\". "
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 2,
          "text": "Archetypes were Platonic and then Neoplatonic commonplaces long before \nJung reapplied the idea of psychology."
        },
        {
          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "...mmm...that's right...I'll havta re-read it...(sighs, slings it on top of \nthe 'Urgent Reading' pile...)"
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "Which is not to say that that idea may not also be present in >Williams, \nbut I really don't believe that it's primary."
        },
        {
          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "To be sure!  I should know better than to post in haste (post-haste?) on \n_this_ list!  Nothwithstanding this, I think that my point about retaining a \ncautious distinction between theological and fictional intentions is still, \npossibly, a partially valid one."
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "consider how much he may too have\nbeen playing with similar ideas to Williams. Interesting to see that he\nexplicitly mentions reading Charles Williams in the interview which he >did \nwith Nutria."
        },
        {
          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "Hmmmm...that's right...\n\n->Zx<-\n____________________________________________________________\n\nConsciousness will always be one degree above comprehensibility.\n\n- G.C.H. Ehrensvard\n____________________________________________________________\n\nWeep at least once to see God.\n\n- Sri Ramakrishna"
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "message_id": "<urth-v0301-2712@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Dan'l Danehy-Oakes",
        "address": "ddanehy at siebel.com"
      },
      "date": "2003-01-20T17:06:34+00:00",
      "subject": "RE: (urth) Small g, Big G",
      "in_reply_to": "<urth-v0301-2697@digest.urth.net>",
      "reply_link": "subject",
      "blocks": [
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 2,
          "text": "Williams is such a wonderful but odd writer, isn't he? I \nconfess to an \nintense love-hate relationship with his books."
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "Mystical, baffing and worth re-reading..."
        },
        {
          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "For those who do like CW, may I recommend (if you do not\nalready know his work) Tim Powers? The closest living writer\nto \"carrying on the Williams tradition,\" except that he is,\nin my humble, a better prose stylist than Williams ever \nmanaged to be. Williams was a fine poet, but in the writing\nof fiction ... I wish I knew who first said it, but I've\nalways agreed with this: \"He wrote potboilers, but he \nalways boiled an honest pot.\" \n\nAnywho, Powers is an astonishing writer ..."
        }
      ]
    }
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