{ "export": { "source": "https://urth.darkrealm.vip/thread/urth/3774", "note": "Exported from an unofficial mirror of a public mailing list. Copyright in each message remains with the person who wrote it. Email addresses are obscured as `user at host`, the form the original archive published. This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact.", "addresses": "obscured as 'user at host'" }, "archive": "urth", "thread": { "id": 3774, "subject": "Will there ever be a Book of the Old Sun?", "messages": 9, "voices": 6, "first": "2003-01-19T16:43:49+00:00", "last": "2003-01-20T21:50:26+00:00" }, "messages": [ { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Anthony Ferrara", "address": "ajferrara72 at yahoo.com" }, "date": "2003-01-19T16:43:49+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Will there ever be a Book of the Old Sun?", "in_reply_to": null, "reply_link": null, "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Since Wolfe complemented (title wise, that is) his Book of the Long Sun series with a Book of the Short Sun series, why not write a Book of the Old Sun series? Obviously, this could take place before \nAnthony" } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Josh Geller", "address": "dclxvi at dclxvi.best.vwh.net" }, "date": "2003-01-19T16:48:50+00:00", "subject": "Re: (urth) Will there ever be a Book of the Old Sun?", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "subject", "blocks": [ { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On Sun, 19 Jan 2003, Anthony Ferrara wrote:\nSince Wolfe complemented (title wise, that is) his Book of the Long Sun\nseries with a Book of the Short Sun series, why not write a Book of the\nOld Sun series? Obviously, this could take place before >" }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "After he's written some more Latro stories.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n." } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Anthony Ferrara", "address": "ajferrara72 at yahoo.com" }, "date": "2003-01-19T17:19:03+00:00", "subject": "Re: (urth) Will there ever be a Book of the Old Sun?", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "subject", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "I haven't read the Soldier books yet, but may order the Latro in the Mist omnibus. How would you rate them compared to Wolfe's other work?\nAnthony\n Josh Geller wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On Sun, 19 Jan 2003, Anthony Ferrara wrote:\nSince Wolfe complemented (title wise, that is) his Book of the Long Sun\nseries with a Book of the Short Sun series, why not write a Book of the\nOld Sun series? Obviously, this could take place before >" }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "After he's written some more Latro stories.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n." } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Josh Geller", "address": "dclxvi at dclxvi.best.vwh.net" }, "date": "2003-01-19T17:52:21+00:00", "subject": "Re: (urth) Will there ever be a Book of the Old Sun?", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "subject", "blocks": [ { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On Sun, 19 Jan 2003, Anthony Ferrara wrote:\n Josh Geller wrote:\nOn Sun, 19 Jan 2003, Anthony Ferrara wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "Since Wolfe complemented (title wise, that is) his Book of the Long Sun\nseries with a Book of the Short Sun series, why not write a Book of the\nOld Sun series? Obviously, this could take place before >" }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": " After he's written some more Latro stories." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "I haven't read the Soldier books yet, but may order the Latro in the\nMist omnibus. How would you rate them compared to Wolfe's other work?" }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "They may be right up there with 'The Book Of The New Sun'. It's hard to\nsay, as the story is not complete.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n." } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Michael Straight", "address": "straight at email.unc.edu" }, "date": "2003-01-20T01:53:45+00:00", "subject": "Re: (urth) Will there ever be a Book of the Old Sun?", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "subject", "blocks": [ { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On Sun, 19 Jan 2003, Anthony Ferrara wrote:\nI haven't read the Soldier books yet, but may order the Latro in the\nMist omnibus. How would you rate them compared to Wolfe's other work?" }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "I like them as much or more than Wolfe's other novels.\n\n-Rostrum" } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "James Jordan", "address": "jbjordan4 at cox.net" }, "date": "2003-01-20T18:33:51+00:00", "subject": "Re: (urth) Will there ever be a Book of the Old Sun?", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "subject", "blocks": [ { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "At 10:43 AM 1/19/2003, you wrote:\nSince Wolfe complemented (title wise, that is) his Book of the Long Sun \nseries with a Book of the Short Sun series, why not write a Book of the \nOld Sun series? Obviously, this could take place befo\n\nAnthony" }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Latro, man. Latro lives before the Ultimate New Sun arrived in history (the \ntheoanthropos). He lives at the beginning of time, when memory is short, \nunlike Severian, who lives toward the end, when memory is almost \ninfallible. Thematically, anyway, Latro is what you are looking for. Let's \nhope he lives to finish it the way he planned.\n It would be interesting to read the Soldier books with an eye on \nthe Severian quintet, and see how many things are thematically or \nnarratively parallel. I suspect there's a lot.\n\nNutria" } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "James Jordan", "address": "jbjordan4 at cox.net" }, "date": "2003-01-20T18:35:45+00:00", "subject": "Re: (urth) Will there ever be a Book of the Old Sun?", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "subject", "blocks": [ { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "At 07:53 PM 1/19/2003, you wrote:\nOn Sun, 19 Jan 2003, Anthony Ferrara wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "I haven't read the Soldier books yet, but may order the Latro in the\nMist omnibus. How would you rate them compared to Wolfe's other work?" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "I like them as much or more than Wolfe's other novels.\n\n-Rostrum" }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "You might want to skim Bulfinch's Mythology before starting in. You've \ngotta know a bit, yea more than a bit, about ancient Greek mythology. And \nif the series continues, you're going to have to know something about \nZoroastrianism also, I suspect.\n\nNutria" } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Dan'l Danehy-Oakes", "address": "ddanehy at siebel.com" }, "date": "2003-01-20T19:13:19+00:00", "subject": "RE: (urth) Will there ever be a Book of the Old Sun?", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "subject", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "To Anthony's:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "... why not write a Book of the Old Sun ..." }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Nutria respondeth:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "Latro, man. Latro lives before the Ultimate New Sun arrived=20\nin history (the theoanthropos).=20" }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "... an interesting point. I'd noticed some of the obvious\ncontrasts, but thinkin of it as a BotOS had not occurred to\nme. Yeah, may he finish it; I want to see how important Apollo\nturns out to be in all this ..." } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Ryan Thistlethwaite", "address": "shintemaster at hotmail.com" }, "date": "2003-01-20T21:50:26+00:00", "subject": "Re: (urth) Will there ever be a Book of the Old Sun?", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "subject", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Who is he George Lucas?! I like a little MYSTERY in my life. The Old Sun is just that, OLD... " } ] } ] }