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  "thread": {
    "id": 378,
    "subject": "Mirrors, Apports",
    "messages": 2,
    "voices": 2,
    "first": "1998-02-17T15:56:00+00:00",
    "last": "1998-02-17T16:41:06+00:00"
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  "messages": [
    {
      "message_id": "<urth-v0007-0563@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "m.driussi",
        "address": "m.driussi at genie.geis.com"
      },
      "date": "1998-02-17T15:56:00+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Mirrors, Apports",
      "in_reply_to": null,
      "reply_link": null,
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          "text": "Reply:  Item #0858372 from URTH at LISTS.BEST.COM@INET#\n\nKieran Cleary,\n\nRe: the endpoint destination from magic mirrors in Briah, in \"The\nCat\" we are told creatures which enter the circle are \"circumfused\nto the borders of Briah\" (ES, p. 214); the autarch offers a shortcut\nto \"the Garden (Yesod)\" when he shows Severian the book of mirrors\n(II, ch. 21)--true, this could be just a shortcut to the ship Tzadkiel,\nsimilar to the shortcut to the ship Tzadkiel used from the interior of\nworldship Yesod (V, ch. 23) . . .\n\nBorders of Briah, hmmm.  \"Borderlands\" in this context seems more\nlike Brook Madregot or corridors of time if it is not Yesod.\n\"Circumfused\" uses the image of \"spread out\" which is used in other\ncases of talking about mirror destinations, or so I believe.\n\nRe: apports.  Based upon the one case we have, apports seem to be\nreflections (of sailors who pass in front of the mirrors) that come\nto life on their own.  Are all apports really spawn of Hierogrammates\nas Venant was of Tzadkiel?\n\n=mantis="
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    {
      "message_id": "<urth-v0007-0564@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Kieran Cleary",
        "address": "kierannwn at tinet.ie"
      },
      "date": "1998-02-17T16:41:06+00:00",
      "subject": "Re: (urth) Mirrors, Apports",
      "in_reply_to": "<urth-v0007-0563@digest.urth.net>",
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          "text": "er, well I haven't read \"The Cat\", so I'm not sure what the \"circle\" you're\nreferring to is."
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          "depth": 1,
          "text": "Re: apports.  Based upon the one case we have, apports seem to be\nreflections (of sailors who pass in front of the mirrors) that come\nto life on their own."
        },
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          "text": "I really don't think this is so. The ship's hold contains the caged apports,\nand in fact the Tzadkiel-sliver which comes to resemble Severian is assumed\nto be one. The ship's sails accidentally act as mirrors and, as in the case\nof the Fish, images are created *without an object*, which subsequently come\nto form real beings. Gunnie finds it funny that the apports may be important\npeople on their own worlds, but are snatched away and caged in hold of the\nship. Problem here though in that Fr. Inire says that a coherent light\nsource (laser) is required for anything more complicated than the Fish to\nform. The ship is presumably driven by starlight which is non-coherent.\nHmmm.\n\nKieran C.\n\nNorth West Labs\nFinisklin Industrial Estate\nSligo\nRepublic of Ireland\n\nTel. +353 71 69441\nFax. +353 71 69451\nemail: kierannwn at tinet.ie"
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