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This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact.", "addresses": "obscured as 'user at host'" }, "archive": "urth", "thread": { "id": 3807, "subject": "Question about a different novelist named Wolfe", "messages": 10, "voices": 6, "first": "2003-01-24T14:40:02+00:00", "last": "2003-01-27T17:14:36+00:00" }, "messages": [ { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Christopher Culver", "address": "christopher_culver at yahoo.com" }, "date": "2003-01-24T14:40:02+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Question about a different novelist named Wolfe", "in_reply_to": null, "reply_link": null, "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "On the bookshelves (at least when some of his books are misshelved in \nthe Fiction section), Gene Wolfe sits by the early 20th-century writer \nThomas Wolfe. Has anyone read any of Thomas Wolfe's work? Would you \nrecommend it? I've always been intrigued for some reason by Thomas \nWolfe's intimidatingly large books, and wonder what sort of experience \nreading him is.\n\nChristopher Culver " } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "James Jordan", "address": "jbjordan4 at cox.net" }, "date": "2003-01-24T15:13:18+00:00", "subject": "Re: (urth) Question about a different novelist named Wolfe", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "subject", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Now there's a thought. Given all the wolves in Wolfe's writings, and his \nspins on Nero Wolfe, it seems likely that Gene has read the writings of \nother Wolfes. Perhaps there are lots of spins on Thomas Wolfe's books in \nGene's. I've not read the latter, but maybe someone here has.\n\nNutria" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "At 08:40 AM 1/24/2003, you wrote:\nOn the bookshelves (at least when some of his books are misshelved in the \nFiction section), Gene Wolfe sits by the early 20th-century writer Thomas \nWolfe. Has anyone read any of Thomas Wolfe's work? Would you recommend it? \nI've always been intrigued for some reason by Thomas Wolfe's \nintimidatingly large books, and wonder what sort of experience reading him is.\n\nChristopher Culver \n\n--" } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Thomas Bitterman", "address": "thomasbitterman at netscape.net" }, "date": "2003-01-24T16:22:55+00:00", "subject": "RE: (urth) Question about a different novelist named Wolfe", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "subject", "blocks": [ { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "Christopher Culver wrote:\nOn the bookshelves (at least when some of his books are misshelved in \nthe Fiction section), Gene Wolfe sits by the early 20th-century writer \nThomas Wolfe. Has anyone read any of Thomas Wolfe's work? Would you \nrecommend it? I've always been intrigued for some reason by Thomas \nWolfe's intimidatingly large books, and wonder what sort of experience \nreading him is." }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "I've read (very little) Tom Wolfe: _The Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test_,\n_Bonfire of the Vanities_, _From Bauhuas to Our House_, and _The\nKandy-Kolored Tangerine-Flake Streamline Baby_. Based on that\nhe's an easy read, good style, interesting topics. He started in\njournalism and his subjects tend to be contemporary people in\ninteresting or extraordinary situations.\n\nIn some ways he's almost the opposite of Gene Wolfe. Gene writes\nvery dense, difficult, rather pessimistic stories about times\nand places far away where everything is strange and decayed.\nThomas writes brighter stories in contemporary settings where\npeople cope pretty well. He'll probably be remembered as one\nof the best American novelists of the 20th century." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "Christopher Culver " }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": " - tom\n\n\n__________________________________________________________________\nThe NEW Netscape 7.0 browser is now available. Upgrade now! http://channels.netscape.com/ns/browsers/download.jsp \n\nGet your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/" } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "James Jordan", "address": "jbjordan4 at cox.net" }, "date": "2003-01-24T16:29:50+00:00", "subject": "RE: (urth) Question about a different novelist named Wolfe", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "subject", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Now there's yet another one: Tom Wolfe. You know, thinking about it, the \nmadhouse scene in *Free Live Free* might be inspired by Tom Wolfe. It's \nlike the kinds of things he writes about.\n\nNutria" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "At 10:22 AM 1/24/2003, you wrote:\nChristopher Culver wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "On the bookshelves (at least when some of his books are misshelved in\nthe Fiction section), Gene Wolfe sits by the early 20th-century writer\nThomas Wolfe. Has anyone read any of Thomas Wolfe's work? Would you\nrecommend it? I've always been intrigued for some reason by Thomas\nWolfe's intimidatingly large books, and wonder what sort of experience\nreading him is." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "I've read (very little) Tom Wolfe: _The Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test_,\n_Bonfire of the Vanities_, _From Bauhuas to Our House_, and _The\nKandy-Kolored Tangerine-Flake Streamline Baby_. Based on that\nhe's an easy read, good style, interesting topics. He started in\njournalism and his subjects tend to be contemporary people in\ninteresting or extraordinary situations.\n\nIn some ways he's almost the opposite of Gene Wolfe. Gene writes\nvery dense, difficult, rather pessimistic stories about times\nand places far away where everything is strange and decayed.\nThomas writes brighter stories in contemporary settings where\npeople cope pretty well. He'll probably be remembered as one\nof the best American novelists of the 20th century." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "Christopher Culver \n - tom" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "__________________________________________________________________\nThe NEW Netscape 7.0 browser is now available. Upgrade now! \nhttp://channels.netscape.com/ns/browsers/download.jsp\n\nGet your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at \nhttp://webmail.netscape.com/\n\n--" } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Dan Schmidt", "address": "dfan at harmonixmusic.com" }, "date": "2003-01-24T16:36:33+00:00", "subject": "Re: (urth) Question about a different novelist named Wolfe", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "subject", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "thomasbitterman at netscape.net (Thomas Bitterman) writes:\n\n| Christopher Culver wrote:\n| \n| >On the bookshelves (at least when some of his books are misshelved in \n| >the Fiction section), Gene Wolfe sits by the early 20th-century writer \n| >Thomas Wolfe. Has anyone read any of Thomas Wolfe's work? Would you \n| >recommend it? I've always been intrigued for some reason by Thomas \n| >Wolfe's intimidatingly large books, and wonder what sort of experience \n| >reading him is.\n| \n| I've read (very little) Tom Wolfe: _The Electric Kool-Aid Acid\n| Test_, _Bonfire of the Vanities_, _From Bauhuas to Our House_, and\n| _The Kandy-Kolored Tangerine-Flake Streamline Baby_. Based on that\n| he's an easy read, good style, interesting topics. He started in\n| journalism and his subjects tend to be contemporary people in\n| interesting or extraordinary situations.\n\nTom Wolfe is a different guy. Thomas Wolfe is the one who wrote\n_Look Homeward, Angel_.\n\nDan" }, { "kind": "sig", "depth": 0, "text": "http://www.dfan.org\n\n\n\n-- " } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Thomas Bitterman", "address": "thomasbitterman at netscape.net" }, "date": "2003-01-24T16:50:01+00:00", "subject": "Re: (urth) Question about a different novelist named Wolfe", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "subject", "blocks": [ { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "Dan Schmidt wrote:\n\nTom Wolfe is a different guy. Thomas Wolfe is the one who wrote\n_Look Homeward, Angel_." }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "darn." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "Dan" }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": " - tom\n\n\n__________________________________________________________________\nThe NEW Netscape 7.0 browser is now available. Upgrade now! http://channels.netscape.com/ns/browsers/download.jsp \n\nGet your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/" } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Dan'l Danehy-Oakes", "address": "ddanehy at siebel.com" }, "date": "2003-01-24T16:56:13+00:00", "subject": "RE: (urth) Question about a different novelist named Wolfe", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "subject", "blocks": [ { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "Tom Wolfe is a different guy. Thomas Wolfe is the one who \nwrote _Look Homeward, Angel_." }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Not to mention _Time and the River_, _A Man in Full_, and \n_You Can't Go Home Again_.\n\nBut while we're at it let's not forget ...\n\nGary K. Wolfe (SF critic)\nL.E. Wolfe (author of the \"Jack B. Quick - Sports Detective\" books)\nBernard Wolfe (author of the mainstream-sf novel \"Limbo,\" as\n well as \"Memoirs of a Not Altogether Shy Pornographer\" \n and \"Trotsky Dead\")\nElle Wolfe (author of the \"Palm Beach Prep\" series)\n\nand, lacking the \"e\" but seeming worth mention\n\nGary K. Wolf (author of the original \"Who Cencored Roger\n Rabbit?\")\n\n... not to mention a host of other Wolfess too pointless to\nmention ..." } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Andrew Bollen", "address": "abollen at internode.on.net" }, "date": "2003-01-24T17:05:41+00:00", "subject": "Re: (urth) Question about a different novelist named Wolfe", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "subject", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Can we include Virginia Wolfe?\n\n----- Original Message ----- " }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "From: \"Dan'l Danehy-Oakes\" \nTo: \nSent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 3:56 AM\nSubject: RE: (urth) Question about a different novelist named Wolfe\nTom Wolfe is a different guy. Thomas Wolfe is the one who \nwrote _Look Homeward, Angel_." }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Not to mention _Time and the River_, _A Man in Full_, and \n_You Can't Go Home Again_.\n\nBut while we're at it let's not forget ...\n\nGary K. Wolfe (SF critic)\nL.E. Wolfe (author of the \"Jack B. Quick - Sports Detective\" books)\nBernard Wolfe (author of the mainstream-sf novel \"Limbo,\" as\n well as \"Memoirs of a Not Altogether Shy Pornographer\" \n and \"Trotsky Dead\")\nElle Wolfe (author of the \"Palm Beach Prep\" series)\n\nand, lacking the \"e\" but seeming worth mention\n\nGary K. Wolf (author of the original \"Who Cencored Roger\n Rabbit?\")\n\n... not to mention a host of other Wolfess too pointless to\nmention ..." } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Dan'l Danehy-Oakes", "address": "ddanehy at siebel.com" }, "date": "2003-01-24T17:07:12+00:00", "subject": "RE: (urth) Question about a different novelist named Wolfe", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "subject", "blocks": [ { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "Can we include Virginia Wolfe?" }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Don't see why not ... I was trying to keep my list Merkin." } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Dan Schmidt", "address": "dfan at harmonixmusic.com" }, "date": "2003-01-27T17:14:36+00:00", "subject": "Re: (urth) Question about a different novelist named Wolfe", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "subject", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "\"Dan'l Danehy-Oakes\" writes:\n\n| > Tom Wolfe is a different guy. Thomas Wolfe is the one who \n| > wrote _Look Homeward, Angel_.\n| \n| Not to mention _Time and the River_, _A Man in Full_, and \n| _You Can't Go Home Again_.\n\n_A Man in Full_ is Tom again.\n\nThat is my last pedantic correction, I promise...\n\nDan" }, { "kind": "sig", "depth": 0, "text": "http://www.dfan.org\n\n\n\n-- " } ] } ] }