{ "export": { "source": "https://urth.darkrealm.vip/thread/urth/3817", "note": "Exported from an unofficial mirror of a public mailing list. Copyright in each message remains with the person who wrote it. Email addresses are obscured as `user at host`, the form the original archive published. This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact.", "addresses": "obscured as 'user at host'" }, "archive": "urth", "thread": { "id": 3817, "subject": "Herodotus and Xenophon", "messages": 6, "voices": 4, "first": "2003-01-27T16:59:38+00:00", "last": "2003-01-27T18:42:59+00:00" }, "messages": [ { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Michael Straight", "address": "straight at email.unc.edu" }, "date": "2003-01-27T16:59:38+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Herodotus and Xenophon", "in_reply_to": null, "reply_link": null, "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "A couple questions for my Latro supplemental reading:\n\n1. Which works of Herodotus and Xenophon are the most relevant to the\nSoldier books?\n\n2. Are there good public domain translations available on-line? It would\nbe nice if I could stick them on my Palm Pilot to read at odd moments, but\nI'd get a book if the translation were a lot better. The only one of\nHerodotus I see on first Google is by George Rawlinson." } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Dan'l Danehy-Oakes", "address": "ddanehy at siebel.com" }, "date": "2003-01-27T17:08:30+00:00", "subject": "RE: (urth) Herodotus and Xenophon", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "subject", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Rostrum asks:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "2. Are there good public domain translations available \non-line? It would be nice if I could stick them on my Palm \nPilot to read at odd moments, but I'd get a book if the \ntranslation were a lot better. The only one of Herodotus I \nsee on first Google is by George Rawlinson." }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "One of the most fabulously useful resources on the Web\nis the Online Books Page at http://onlinebooks.library.upenn.edu/\nan attempt to keep up and index all books and major texts in \nEnglish available for free on the Web.\n\nA search for Herodotus there turns up one translation of \"An\nAccount of Egypt\" and three of the \"Histories\":\nhttp://onlinebooks.library.upenn.edu/webbin/book/search?author=Herodotus\n&amode=words\n\nA search for Xenophon turns up too many to summarize here:\nhttp://onlinebooks.library.upenn.edu/webbin/book/search?author=Xenophon&\namode=words\n\n\nAlso of interest might be the MIT Internet Classics Archive\n(http://classics.mit.edu/), and the Perseus Project at\nTufts (http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/).\n\nHope this helps," } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Michael Straight", "address": "straight at email.unc.edu" }, "date": "2003-01-27T17:31:59+00:00", "subject": "RE: (urth) Herodotus and Xenophon", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "subject", "blocks": [ { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On Mon, 27 Jan 2003, Dan'l Danehy-Oakes wrote:\nA search for Herodotus there turns up one translation of \"An\nAccount of Egypt\" and three of the \"Histories\":\nhttp://onlinebooks.library.upenn.edu/webbin/book/search?author=Herodotus\n&amode=words" }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Thanks for the links, but my question was not so much \"Where are they?\" as\n\"Are they good translations?\"\n\n-- Rostrum" } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Josh Geller", "address": "dclxvi at dclxvi.best.vwh.net" }, "date": "2003-01-27T18:10:21+00:00", "subject": "Re: (urth) Herodotus and Xenophon", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "subject", "blocks": [ { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On Mon, 27 Jan 2003, Michael Straight wrote:\nA couple questions for my Latro supplemental reading:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "1. Which works of Herodotus and Xenophon are the most relevant to the\nSoldier books?" }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "There is only one work of Herodotos. It is called 'The History'.\n\nXenophon's Anabasis is probably more relevant.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n." } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Josh Geller", "address": "dclxvi at dclxvi.best.vwh.net" }, "date": "2003-01-27T18:24:43+00:00", "subject": "Re: (urth) Herodotus and Xenophon", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "subject", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Slight correction." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On Mon, 27 Jan 2003, Josh Geller wrote:\nThere is only one work of Herodotos. It is called 'The History'." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "Xenophon's Anabasis is probably more relevant." }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "More relevant than the rest of Xenophon, I mean.\n\nNot more relevant than Herodotos.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n." } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Tami Whitehead", "address": "razorkittee at yahoo.com" }, "date": "2003-01-27T18:42:59+00:00", "subject": "Re: (urth) Herodotus and Xenophon", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "subject", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Hi Michael, \nBelow are a couple of sites you may want to check out.\nThe first is Perseus, which contains many of the\nClassical Texts in entirity, both in English and\nGreek, and relevant commentary and other fun stuff.\nThere you will find the Histories by Herodotus, and\nthe Narrative of the expiditions of Cyrus the Younger\nby Xenophon. Have fun! \n\nThe second is another site, lots of stuff there, but\nthat's primarily where I go for straight reading of\nHerodotus, no commentary or stuff. The first site,\nwhile complete, is rather clumsy, lots of maps and\ncharts and translation tools, but it only shows a\ncouple of paragraphs at a time, and takes a long time\njust to read one chapter...the second works well but\nhas no fun extras, like lexicons...I suggest using the\nsites together. \n\nHave fun with history! It rocks! \n\nrazorkittee\n\n\nhttp://www.perseus.tufts.edu/\nhttp://ancienthistory.about.com/library/bl/bl_text_herodotus_1.htm?terms=Milesian+migration" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "Michael Straight wrote:\n\nA couple questions for my Latro supplemental\nreading:\n\n1. Which works of Herodotus and Xenophon are the\nmost relevant to the\nSoldier books?\n\n2. Are there good public domain translations\navailable on-line? It would\nbe nice if I could stick them on my Palm Pilot to\nread at odd moments, but\nI'd get a book if the translation were a lot better.\n The only one of\nHerodotus I see on first Google is by George\nRawlinson.\n\n--Rostrum\n\n\n-- \nhttp://www.urth.net/\nTo unsubscribe: send \"unsubscribe\" to" }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "urth-request at urth.net" } ] } ] }