{ "export": { "source": "https://urth.darkrealm.vip/thread/urth/3831", "note": "Exported from an unofficial mirror of a public mailing list. Copyright in each message remains with the person who wrote it. Email addresses are obscured as `user at host`, the form the original archive published. This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact.", "addresses": "obscured as 'user at host'" }, "archive": "urth", "thread": { "id": 3831, "subject": "Even Homer nods twice", "messages": 4, "voices": 4, "first": "2003-02-07T00:37:03+00:00", "last": "2003-02-10T20:25:04+00:00" }, "messages": [ { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Nigel Price", "address": "nigel.aprice at virgin.net" }, "date": "2003-02-07T00:37:03+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Even Homer nods twice", "in_reply_to": null, "reply_link": null, "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Way back on Tuesday 17 June 1997, Kevin McGuire asked on the Whorl list:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "On a more frivolous note - is there any\nconnection between Typhon/Piaton and that\nepisode of the Simpsons where Mr. Burns\nhead is grafted onto Homer's body?" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "\"But Homer, tomorrow we are meeting with\nQueen Beatrix of the Netherlands\"" }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "As far as I can see, no one ever answered that question, but I finally got\nto see that episode of \"The Simpsons\" on BBC2 this evening and I would say\ndefinitely, yes! That really does look like a Gene Wolfe homage. A bizarre\none, it's true, but an homage none the less.\n\nNigel" } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Jeff Wilson", "address": "jwilson at io.com" }, "date": "2003-02-10T00:32:10+00:00", "subject": "Re: (urth) Even Homer nods twice", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "subject", "blocks": [ { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "From:\n\"Nigel Price\" " }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "Way back on Tuesday 17 June 1997, Kevin McGuire asked on the Whorl list:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 3, "text": "On a more frivolous note - is there any\nconnection between Typhon/Piaton and that\nepisode of the Simpsons where Mr. Burns\nhead is grafted onto Homer's body?" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 3, "text": "\"But Homer, tomorrow we are meeting with\nQueen Beatrix of the Netherlands\"" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "As far as I can see, no one ever answered that question, but I finally got\nto see that episode of \"The Simpsons\" on BBC2 this evening and I would say\ndefinitely, yes! That really does look like a Gene Wolfe homage. A bizarre\none, it's true, but an homage none the less." }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "In the US, there's a much more prominent antecedent, the schlocky _THING \nWITH TWO HEADS_, starring Rosie Greer (as the body) and Ray Miland (as \nthe new head).\n\nAs far as non-homages go, back in 1986, Marvel Comics produced a \nyear-long limited series, MARVEL SUPER-HEROES SECRET WARS, with such \nURTH-ly, Wolfe-ly plot elements as:\n\n* the champions of earth being summoned by an ineffable being to do \nbattle with their archenemies,\n\n* at least one foe was resurected for the purpose\n\n* a plot by an evil would-be ruler of all mankind involving a severed head\n\n* a mis-appropriated mechanical suit missing its right arm.\n\n* an artifical world with made of bits representing numerous real \nworlds, with creatures taken from them\n\n* a refugee from the previous creation\n\n* a formerly human being grown to immense size who sates his colossal \nhunger by drawing energy form planets via titanic machinery of \nmysterious function\n\n\nYears later, the wearer of the suit went on to have adventures in a kind \nof new earth, advised by a mysterious woman named Skye, found to be some \nsort of \"warrior of Eidolon\", and combatted against a shaggy, grey \nshapeshifting animal...." }, { "kind": "sig", "depth": 0, "text": "Jeff Wilson\nHow Am I Posting? 1-800-555-6789\n\"If your SecOp can see you, so can the enemy.\" -Cpt Law\n\n\n\n-- " } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Michael Straight", "address": "straight at email.unc.edu" }, "date": "2003-02-10T19:12:42+00:00", "subject": "Re: (urth) Even Homer nods twice", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "subject", "blocks": [ { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On Fri, 7 Feb 2003, Nigel Price wrote:\nAs far as I can see, no one ever answered that question, but I finally got\nto see that episode of \"The Simpsons\" on BBC2 this evening and I would say\ndefinitely, yes! That really does look like a Gene Wolfe homage. A bizarre\none, it's true, but an homage none the less." }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "But is the episode half as clever and funny as your subject header?\n\n-- Rostrum" } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "James Wynn", "address": "crushtv at hotpop.com" }, "date": "2003-02-10T20:25:04+00:00", "subject": "RE: (urth) Even Homer nods twice", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "subject", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Nigel opines:\nAs far as I can see, no one ever answered that question, but I finally got\nto see that episode of \"The Simpsons\" on BBC2 this evening and I would say\ndefinitely, yes! That really does look like a Gene Wolfe homage. A bizarre\none, it's true, but an homage none the less.\n\n\nCrush plays the party-pooper:\nI'd much prefer that this were so and I plan to use it to recommend Gene\nWolfe to my Simpson-crazed friends, however...\n\nthe Simpson's Archive (http://www.snpp.com/episodes/8F02.html) notes three\nother possible movie horror sources for this homage, two of which seem quite\ncredible:\n\no The Incredible 2-Headed Transplant (1971) http://us.imdb.com/Title?0069372\n\n\no The Thing with Two Heads (1972) http://us.imdb.com/Plot?0067245\n\n-- Crush" } ] } ] }