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  "thread": {
    "id": 3887,
    "subject": "Quetzal the enigma",
    "messages": 2,
    "voices": 2,
    "first": "2003-03-08T23:47:35+00:00",
    "last": "2003-03-09T04:14:58+00:00"
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  "messages": [
    {
      "message_id": "<urth-v0303-3039@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Lisa Schaffer-Doggett",
        "address": "harlekin at earthlink.net"
      },
      "date": "2003-03-08T23:47:35+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Quetzal the enigma",
      "in_reply_to": null,
      "reply_link": null,
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          "text": "I have two things to say here and the are more musings out loud than \nanything.\n\nThe first is this:  If Green is Urth (or Ushas) what does that say \nabout Quetzal's dying intentions?\n\nThe second is a quote from Graves:\n\n\t\"The most familiar icon of Agean religion is therefore a Moon-woman, a \nStar-son, and a wise spotted Serpent grouped under a fruit-tree - \nArtemis, Hercules and Erechtheus.  Star-son and Serpent are at war; one \nsucceeds the other in the Moon-woman's favour, as summer succeeds \nwinter, and winter succeeds summer; as death succeeds birth and birth \nsucceeds death.\"\n\t\"There are as yet no fathers, for the Serpent is no more the father of \nthe Star-son than the Star-son is of the Serpent.  They are twins, and \nhere we are returned to the single poetic Theme.\"  The White Goddess p. \n388\n\nI can't help but think of the way that Krait in SS is essentially \nSinew.  Is Quetzal also Silk?  Or even Typhon? ('\"You thought me dead \nwhen I was only dry\"' Sword p.137)  He certainly knows a lot of the \nhistory of the Whorl and its making and a lot about Typhon.\n\n\nDon"
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "message_id": "<urth-v0303-3041@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Jeff Veyera",
        "address": "teflon93 at cox.net"
      },
      "date": "2003-03-09T04:14:58+00:00",
      "subject": "RE: (urth) Quetzal the enigma",
      "in_reply_to": "<urth-v0303-3039@digest.urth.net>",
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          "text": "Don wrote:\nI can't help but think of the way that Krait in SS is essentially\nSinew.  Is Quetzal also Silk?  Or even Typhon? ('\"You thought me dead\nwhen I was only dry\"' Sword p.137)  He certainly knows a lot of the\nhistory of the Whorl and its making and a lot about Typhon.\n\n\nTeflon replies:\n\nI think Quetzal's knowledge is a result of spending decades in close\nproximity to the Ayuntamiento, who clearly had this knowledge.\n\nI don't see any similarity between Quetzal and Silk---Wolfe makes Quetzal\nquite distinct from anyone else, whereas Krait is a very idealized Sinew.  I\nthink Wolfe's making another point here regarding identity---Krait is Sinew\nas Horn wishes him to be; Sinew is Sinew, period.  It's no wonder Horn and\nSinew clash constantly, and no wonder Horn feels closer to Krait.  It is\ninteresting that Horn can overlook Krait's inhumanity and misdeeds, at least\nto an extent, but cannot forgive Sinew.\n\nThen along comes Silk with his \"love everybody\" stuff; Horn's children\ncannot believe this elderly flower child's wandering about calling himself\nHorn.\n\nThat's my read, anyway.\n\nTeflon93"
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