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  "thread": {
    "id": 3888,
    "subject": "Fish",
    "messages": 1,
    "voices": 1,
    "first": "2003-03-09T00:26:06+00:00",
    "last": "2003-03-09T00:26:06+00:00"
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  "messages": [
    {
      "message_id": "<urth-v0303-3040@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Lisa Schaffer-Doggett",
        "address": "harlekin at earthlink.net"
      },
      "date": "2003-03-09T00:26:06+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Fish",
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          "text": "Howdy y'all.  It seems like my brain is on fire today.  One of the \narguments I have been expecting against my theory that Valeria is \nSeverian's  sister is the fact that Fish in the Tale of a Boy called \nFrog is described as Frog's twin brother.  This only bothered me \nslightly because all throughout Graves there are indications of gender \nname change.  A God who was originally an aspect of the Goddess, but \nbecame masculinized.  I figured there would be a gender difference \nbetween Frog and Fish in either Greek or Latin.  What I found has my \nwheels turning.  Ichthys is fish in Greek, and it is very masculine.  \nIn fact it is used as the acronym for Christ, as well as being an \naspect of Horus and some other sun gods.  This seems like a strike \nuntil I looked a little further and dug up the word Delphos, which also \nmeans fish (I think more correctly dolphin, though I'm not sure the \nword distinguishes between mammal and fish) and womb.  It turns out \nthat the fish is an ancient symbol (allegedly) of a variety of \ngoddesses and was co-opted by the masculine sun gods.  So the Tale of a \nBoy called Frog might also be read as a triumph of the masculine.  What \ntroubles me is this duality.  Valeria fits the profile of Frog's twin, \nbut so does Silk in a way (though it would have to be fraternal).  All \nof the embryo's on the Whorl are stored underground.  And Severian sees \nSilk as Malrubius.  It occurs to me that Malrubius might be another \nblack bean, corresponding with death, and that Silk's genetic \nsimilarities with him make him appear as similar in his astral state.  \nI think I need to just reread Long Sun.\n\nDon"
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