{ "export": { "source": "https://urth.darkrealm.vip/thread/urth/3978", "note": "Exported from an unofficial mirror of a public mailing list. Copyright in each message remains with the person who wrote it. Email addresses are obscured as `user at host`, the form the original archive published. This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact.", "addresses": "obscured as 'user at host'" }, "archive": "urth", "thread": { "id": 3978, "subject": "Engine Summer", "messages": 2, "voices": 2, "first": "2003-05-06T21:06:13+00:00", "last": "2003-05-07T17:29:17+00:00" }, "messages": [ { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "cilluff1 at optonline.net", "address": "cilluff1 at optonline.net" }, "date": "2003-05-06T21:06:13+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Engine Summer", "in_reply_to": null, "reply_link": null, "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "I know we have had an on-again, off-again discussion about other Lupinesque\nauthors that listers would recommend. I just finished reading John\nCrowley's \"Engine Summer\" and highly recommend it. The Wolfean elements\ninclude the far-future, post-apocalypse setting, but the real strength and\ncharm of the book have little to do with the far-future setting, the\ninterpersonal relationships and characters are what drive the work. \nWhereas, in the NS cycle, the dying sun really is integral to the plot, and\nthe plot drives the story, in Engine Summer the far-future earth happens to\nbe where the story takes place, it is the setting, but really the story is\nmuch more universal IMHO. As Rush that Speaks said, sometimes the\nsnakes-hands are the best parts of stories, and with Engine Summer that\ncertainly is the case -- there is nothing overly unique about the plot,\nCrowley's magic is all in the telling.\n\nEngine Summer is my first foray into Crowley but I just picked up Little,\nBig which I know is supposed to be his masterpiece. I can't wait! " } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "William Ansley", "address": "wansley at warwick.net" }, "date": "2003-05-07T17:29:17+00:00", "subject": "Re: (urth) Engine Summer", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "subject", "blocks": [ { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "At 05:06 PM 5/6/2003 -0400, cilluff1 at optonline.net wrote:\nAs Rush that Speaks said, sometimes the\nsnakes-hands are the best parts of stories, and with Engine Summer that\ncertainly is the case -- there is nothing overly unique about the plot,\nCrowley's magic is all in the telling." }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Even though it was as recently as April 21 that Alice Turner mentioned the \nnew book on Crowley:\n\n_Snake's-Hands: The Fiction of John Crowley_\nEdited by Alice K. Turner & Michael Andre-Driussi\n\nwhich was contributed to by four members of this discussion group, \nincluding myself, I will risk being charged with redundant posting and \nblowing my own horn because I received my own copy of this work (finally) \nthis past Monday, so reading the passage I quote above was too tempting an \nopportunity to resist.\n\nI will also supply a bit more purchasing info, for those so inclined:\n\nThe original, much shorter, chapbook or booklet is still available from \nSirius Fiction. (The web site says on 17 copies are left.)\n\n\n\n\nThe new, much expanded hardcover is available from Cosmos Books (a division \nof Wildside Press).\n\n\n\n\nThe above web site says that there is a trade paperback edition of the book \nas well, but only the hardcover is currently available for sale so perhaps \nthe paperback is forthcoming.\n\nHere is a list of the contributors:\n\nMichael Andre-Driussi\nWilliam H. Ansley\nBrian Attebery\nHarold Bloom\nJohn Clute\nMatthew S. S. Davis\nThomas M. Disch\nJames Hynes\nDon Riggs\nBill Sheehan\nGraham Sleight\nAdam Stephanides\nJennifer Stevenson\nSondra Ford Swift\nAlice K. Turner\n\nI hope the list members will forgive me for this rather lengthy posting, \nbut I felt the book was of enough interest to the group to warrant it.\n\nWilliam Ansley" } ] } ] }