{ "export": { "source": "https://urth.darkrealm.vip/thread/urth/4017", "note": "Exported from an unofficial mirror of a public mailing list. Copyright in each message remains with the person who wrote it. Email addresses are obscured as `user at host`, the form the original archive published. This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact.", "addresses": "obscured as 'user at host'" }, "archive": "urth", "thread": { "id": 4017, "subject": "Sun Series---A Newbish Question", "messages": 3, "voices": 3, "first": "2003-06-06T13:43:34+00:00", "last": "2003-06-06T17:21:17+00:00" }, "messages": [ { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Tyreal", "address": "akean989 at yahoo.com" }, "date": "2003-06-06T13:43:34+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Sun Series---A Newbish Question", "in_reply_to": null, "reply_link": null, "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Hi,\n \nTyreal here. I was wandering if someone could put the all of the Sun Series books in order in which they were meant to be read. Please include the urth, the new, the long, the short, and any other \nTyreal" } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Sam Keyes", "address": "skeyes at richmond.edu" }, "date": "2003-06-06T15:58:44+00:00", "subject": "Re: (urth) Sun Series---A Newbish Question", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "subject", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Greetings.\n\nI hesitate to toss myself into public, but here goes. I can't really say\nin what order they're MEANT to be read, but they were, I think, published\nin this order, and this is the order in which I have and am reading them:\n\nThe Book of the New Sun:\nShadow and Claw (Shadow of the Torturer and Claw of the Conciliator)\nSword and Citadel (Sword of the Lictor and Citadel of the Autarch)\n\nThe Urth of the New Sun\n\nThe Book of the Long Sun:\nLitany of the Long Sun (Nightside and Lake)\nEpiphany of the Long Sun (Cald=E9 and Exodus)\n\nThe Book of the Short Sun:\nOn Blue's Waters\nIn Green's Jungles\nReturn to the Whorl\n\nForgive my ignorance if I have misplaced something or misunderstood.\n\nAnd, as a brief introduction to the list, I ought to say that I am an\nundergraduate currently doing a summer project (i.e., my school was kind\n(or stupid) enough to give me money) on Wolfe--particularly the New Sun.=20\nSo once I finish wallowing through the stuff I'm doing now, perhaps I'll\nhave a question or two for you people.\n\nSam" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "Hi,\n\nTyreal here. I was wandering if someone could put the all of the Sun\nSeries books in order in which they were meant to be read. Please\ninclude the urth, the new, the long, the short, and any other\n\nTyreal\n\n\n---------------------------------\nDo you Yahoo!?\nThe New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.\n\n--\nunsubscribe: send \"unsubscribe\" to urth-request at urth.net" } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "William Ansley", "address": "wansley at warwick.net" }, "date": "2003-06-06T17:21:17+00:00", "subject": "Re: (urth) Sun Series---A Newbish Question", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "subject", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "\"Sam Keyes\" wrote (in part):" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "I can't really say\nin what order they're MEANT to be read, but they were, I think, published\nin this order, and this is the order in which I have and am reading them:\n\nThe Book of the New Sun:\nShadow and Claw (Shadow of the Torturer and Claw of the Conciliator)\nSword and Citadel (Sword of the Lictor and Citadel of the Autarch)\n\nThe Urth of the New Sun\n\nThe Book of the Long Sun:\nLitany of the Long Sun (Nightside and Lake)\nEpiphany of the Long Sun (Caldé and Exodus)\n\nThe Book of the Short Sun:\nOn Blue's Waters\nIn Green's Jungles\nReturn to the Whorl" }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Replying to Tyreal who wrote" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "Tyreal here. I was wandering if someone could put the all of the Sun\nSeries books in order in which they were meant to be read. Please\ninclude the urth, the new, the long, the short, and any other" }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "I am a strong proponent of reading books in the order they were published, \nno matter what the order of \"internal chronology\" is, so I agree with the \nreading list order given by Sam Keyes, above. Frankly, I am not sure the \nquestion, \"In what order are Gene Wolfe Sun books meant to be read?\" is \nanswerable in that form.\n\nHere is a list of the titles of all the original novels in the Sun series \n(so far) with some extras:\n\n~The Book of the New Sun~\n_The Shadow of the Toturer_\n_The Claw of the Conciliator_\n_The Sword of the Lictor_\n_The Citadel of the Autarch_\n\n(_Shadow and Claw_ combines novels 1 & 2 above.)\n(_Sword and Citadel_ combines novels 3 & 4 above.)\n\n_The Urth of the New Sun_\n\n~The Book of the Long Sun~\n_Nightside the Long Sun_\n_Lake of the Long Sun_\n_Calde of the Long Sun_\n_Exodus from the Long Sun_\n\n(_Litany of the Long Sun_ combines novels 1 & 2 above.)\n(_Epiphany of the Long Sun_ combines novels 3 & 4 above.)\n\n~The Book of the Short Sun~\n_On Blue's Oceans_\n_In Green's Jungles_\n_Return to the Whorl_\n\nRelated books:\n_Gene Wolfe's Book of Days_\n(includes _The Castle of the Otter_, a collection of essays about the Book \nof the New Sun)\nEndangered Species\n(includes the stories, \"The Cat\" and \"The Map,\" generally considered to be \nset in the same universe as the Sun books)\n\nPossibly related books:\n_The Fifth Head of Cerberus_\n(said by some to be set in the same universe as the Sun books)\n_Storeys from the Old Hotel_\n(includes the story, \"A Solar Labyrinth,\" said by some to be a metafiction \non the Book of the New Sun)\n\n\nWilliam Ansley" } ] } ] }