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    "id": 4040,
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    "first": "2003-06-23T06:51:09+00:00",
    "last": "2003-06-23T06:51:09+00:00"
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    {
      "message_id": "<urth-v0306-3515@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Andrew Bollen",
        "address": "abollen at internode.on.net"
      },
      "date": "2003-06-23T06:51:09+00:00",
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          "text": "I SAUD"
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          "text": "... Lucius Quinctius Cincinnatus, appointed dictator in 458, so\nmaybe our Latro? Probably not, given that Livy has him at 80+ years old\nwhen\nappointed dictator again in 439. But one of his first acts in 458 was to\nappoint as \"Master of the Horse, Lucius Tarquitius, a member of a\npatrician\nhouse, but owing to his poverty he had served in the infantry, where he\nwas\nconsidered by far the finest of the Roman soldiers.\" That could be our\nman,\nmaybe."
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          "text": "Just continuing this idle speculation, if Lucius Tarquitius is in fact\nLatro, we get a back-story for why he should have been an exile. The\nTarquitii were in fact the Tarquins, slightly re-branded after the expulsion\nof the Tarquinus Superbus, the last king. Mr Google says this:\n\n\"It is common belief that the gente Tarquinia died out in Rome after the\nexpulsion of Superbus, but, although there is a significant period in which\nthey are not present, the descendants of the Tarquins were around even\nthrough the late Republic. The name underwent a very slight change, becoming\nTarquitius, perhaps because the name of Tarquinius would stand a very poor\nchance of becoming a leading family in Rome after the mass expulsion of the\ngens. After the exile, the founding of the Republic, and the conclusion of\nthe wars resulting from the above, the gens Tarquinia, Etruscan gens\nTarchna, settled in nearby Caere. However, they did not stay long from Rome.\nBy 444BCE, the Tarquinii had once again become an imperial family, under the\nname of the Tarquitii. \"\n\nhttp://www.geocities.com/Athens/Sparta/7249/History.html#etruscus\n\nIn the 480's, presumably the family was still in exile.\n\nLatro as the descendant of kings makes a great deal of sense. All of this\nhob-nobbing with deities is not something one would expect (Hellenistically)\nof a commoner. Despite his \"plain fighting-man\" appearance, he can certainly\nsummon courtly manners when appropriate. I believe Korte refers to him as\n\"whelp of the wolf\" at some point.\n\nFWIW, the Tarquinii were descended from Demaratus of Corinth, exiled to\nEtruria and reputed to have taught the Etruscans letters. Whether there was\never supposed to have been a connection between this Demaratus, and\nDemaratus of Sparta in exile at Xeres court in Latro's time, I don't know."
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