# Severian and the skull *The Urth list — 2 messages, 2 voices, 08 Jul 2003* > Exported from an unofficial mirror of a public mailing list. Copyright > in each message remains with the person who wrote it. > Email addresses are obscured as `user at host`, the form the original > archive published. This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than > retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact. --- ### Christopher Culver *08 Jul 2003, 11:34* > Marc Aramini wrote: > The recent discussion has prompted me to look once again at the end of Urth of the New Sun. I think we can all agree that the skull that Severian finds at the bottom of the lake when he goes diving > You can count me out. I've never believed the skull was of a former Severian. I think that it is just an object which allows Severian to meditate on how many people he has killed to save Urth. From th > Christopher Culver --- ### Andrew Bollen *08 Jul 2003, 12:57 · follows Christopher Culver* Christopher says: > You can count me out. I've never believed the skull was of a former > Severian. I think that it is just an object which allows > Severian to meditate on how many people he has killed to save Urth. Me too! I don't think relics of prototype Sev's or their worlds exist in our Sev's world. At least, I don't see much reason to suppose they do. Sev encountering his own corpse in UOTNS doesn't count, IMO: that was a different kind of resurrection. ---