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  "thread": {
    "id": 4181,
    "subject": "love apples",
    "messages": 2,
    "voices": 2,
    "first": "2003-08-22T02:49:58+00:00",
    "last": "2003-08-22T13:05:13+00:00"
  },
  "messages": [
    {
      "message_id": "<urth-v0308-3984@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "James Wynn",
        "address": "crushtv at hotpop.com"
      },
      "date": "2003-08-22T02:49:58+00:00",
      "subject": "Re: (urth) love apples",
      "in_reply_to": null,
      "reply_link": null,
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          "text": "Marc said:"
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "...in Long Sun for those stupid tomatoes that Silk and Maytera\nRose have a disgusting battle of wills over. I've always thought that that\nscene was far more important than I understood ... why else would we talk\nabout slices of food forever?"
        },
        {
          "kind": "text",
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          "text": "I have presumed that because the tomato is called \"the love apple\" from the\nFrench \"Pommes d'amour\", the tomotoes Silk denied her were a metaphor for\nthe love he denied her. Later he regretted it.\n\nBut I have no confirmation that that is exactly what Wolfe had in mind.\n\nCrush"
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "message_id": "<urth-v0308-3987@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Tami Whitehead",
        "address": "razorkittee at yahoo.com"
      },
      "date": "2003-08-22T13:05:13+00:00",
      "subject": "Re: (urth) love apples",
      "in_reply_to": "<urth-v0308-3984@digest.urth.net>",
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          "text": "--- James Wynn <crushtv at hotpop.com> wrote:\nMarc said:"
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        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 2,
          "text": "...in Long Sun for those stupid tomatoes that Silk\nand Maytera\nRose have a disgusting battle of wills over. I've\nalways thought that that\nscene was far more important than I understood ..."
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "why else would we talk\nabout slices of food forever?\n\nI have presumed that because the tomato is called\n\"the love apple\" from the\nFrench \"Pommes d'amour\", the tomotoes Silk denied\nher were a metaphor for\nthe love he denied her. Later he regretted it.\n\nBut I have no confirmation that that is exactly what\nWolfe had in mind.\n\nCrush"
        },
        {
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          "text": "Dunno if it helps, or is relevent, but love apples are\nalso another name for mandrake, intimating its use as\nan aphrodisiac and in love charms. The fruit of a\nmandrake is supposed to be superior in these regards\nto the root, whose virtue is that it lasts longer and\ncan be shaped to resemble the person charmed. The\nfruit is yellowish, and in shape and scent resembles\nstrawberries. \n\nrazorkittee"
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