# silk's clean plate *The Urth list — 4 messages, 3 voices, 22 Aug 2003* > Exported from an unofficial mirror of a public mailing list. Copyright > in each message remains with the person who wrote it. > Email addresses are obscured as `user at host`, the form the original > archive published. This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than > retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact. --- ### maa32 *22 Aug 2003, 16:15* Roy brings up Silk's clean plate. I suppose I should have been more precise - the fact that Silk eats very little and gets sick in winter seems important somehow. And he does say something about watching out for people who appear to eat only a little bit, I think. It's hard to find quotes in the Short Sun books! The unconscious nature of his consumption seems strange, as if he didn't remember actually eatting the food. Alas, no dogs or huses under the table to feed it to, I guess. Does he get sick after that scene? I need to look at it again. The question is, can an inhumu even attempt to digest food? I suppose not; Quetzal just likes to sniff his tea. Yes, the abnegation of Urthly pleasures through abstemious eating and the love he fails to extend to Rose certainly explains the tomatoes. Marc Aramini --- ### James Wynn *22 Aug 2003, 22:11 · follows maa32* Marc, This is my third attempt at sending this email. Each time I've said, "oh what's the point" but every time I see your post sitting in my Inbox I start again. Since you have recently posted that you are re-reading LS, I presumed with typical narcissism that you are simultaneously considering the validity of my arguments for Hyacinth being Molybdenum, Silk's Mother, and Tussah. So I'll add one more angle that I didn't mention before. I think the tomatoes are made such a big deal of in LS because the love Silk that does not extend to Rose is very important thematically. Marble/Rose told Silk that the reason Rose hated him was because she could see how he was repulsed by her (chem) prostheses. So it is Silk's ironic damnation to fall in love with Hyacinth, a chem with biological prostheses -- actually the same chem (Molybdenum) in both cases. Note that Hy can subtly change her face and does so to make herself look more like Poppy -- so perhaps she still has those chem facial implements beneath the skin of her face. It all fits sooo nicely. Except for Hyacinth's father with whom I have no idea what to do. :T Anyway, I'd like to know if you come up with anything. James (Crush) Wynn --- ### James Wynn *22 Aug 2003, 22:31 · follows James Wynn* Oops that was supposed to go to Marc only. I'm not prepared to defend most of this -- that is, not far beyond what I've done so far -- so please don't get too exhuberant in shooting it down. Crush ----- Original Message ----- > From: "James Wynn" > To: > Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 5:11 PM > Subject: Re: (urth) silk's clean plate > Marc, > > This is my third attempt at sending this email. Each time I've said, "oh > what's the point" but every time I see your post sitting in my Inbox I > start > again. Since you have recently posted that you are re-reading LS, I > presumed > with typical narcissism that you are simultaneously considering the > validity > of my arguments for Hyacinth being Molybdenum, Silk's Mother, and Tussah. So > I'll add one more angle that I didn't mention before. > > I think the tomatoes are made such a big deal of in LS because the love > Silk > that does not extend to Rose is very important thematically. Marble/Rose > told Silk that the reason Rose hated him was because she could see how he > was repulsed by her (chem) prostheses. So it is Silk's ironic damnation to > fall in love with Hyacinth, a chem with biological prostheses -- actually > the same chem (Molybdenum) in both cases. Note that Hy can subtly change > her > face and does so to make herself look more like Poppy -- so perhaps she > still has those chem facial implements beneath the skin of her face. > > It all fits sooo nicely. Except for Hyacinth's father with whom I have no > idea what to do. :T > > Anyway, I'd like to know if you come up with anything. > > James (Crush) Wynn > > > > -- --- ### Ashley Crill *23 Aug 2003, 03:44 · follows James Wynn* I might point out that Jonas seems to be a Chem with biological prosthetics... -----Original Message----- From: James Wynn [mailto:crushtv at hotpop.com] Sent: Fri 8/22/2003 5:31 PM To: urth at urth.net Cc: Subject: Re: (urth) silk's clean plate Oops that was supposed to go to Marc only. I'm not prepared to defend most of this -- that is, not far beyond what I've done so far -- so please don't get too exhuberant in shooting it down. Crush ----- Original Message ----- > From: "James Wynn" > To: > Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 5:11 PM > Subject: Re: (urth) silk's clean plate > Marc, > > This is my third attempt at sending this email. Each time I've said, "oh > what's the point" but every time I see your post sitting in my Inbox I > start > again. Since you have recently posted that you are re-reading LS, I > presumed > with typical narcissism that you are simultaneously considering the > validity > of my arguments for Hyacinth being Molybdenum, Silk's Mother, and Tussah. So > I'll add one more angle that I didn't mention before. > > I think the tomatoes are made such a big deal of in LS because the love > Silk > that does not extend to Rose is very important thematically. Marble/Rose > told Silk that the reason Rose hated him was because she could see how he > was repulsed by her (chem) prostheses. So it is Silk's ironic damnation to > fall in love with Hyacinth, a chem with biological prostheses -- actually > the same chem (Molybdenum) in both cases. Note that Hy can subtly change > her > face and does so to make herself look more like Poppy -- so perhaps she > still has those chem facial implements beneath the skin of her face. > > It all fits sooo nicely. Except for Hyacinth's father with whom I have no > idea what to do. :T > > Anyway, I'd like to know if you come up with anything. > > James (Crush) Wynn > > > > -- > URTH: discussion of the works of Gene Wolfe - http://www.urth.net/ > To unsubscribe: send "unsubscribe" to urth-request at urth.net -- URTH: discussion of the works of Gene Wolfe - http://www.urth.net/ To unsubscribe: send "unsubscribe" to urth-request at urth.net ---