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  "thread": {
    "id": 4183,
    "subject": "IGJ p 100-103",
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    "first": "2003-08-22T18:13:22+00:00",
    "last": "2003-08-22T18:13:22+00:00"
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      "message_id": "<urth-v0308-3990@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "maa32",
        "address": "maa32 at dana.ucc.nau.edu"
      },
      "date": "2003-08-22T18:13:22+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) IGJ p 100-103",
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          "text": "There is a reason I always paraphrase quotes instead of looking them up.  I \nget distracted, especially in Short Sun, and then you guys have to suffer for \nit.  More Green is Urth from Aramini.\n\nI have probably been accused of misrepresenting and bending the text to my own \nvile purposes more than anyone on the list.  Call it intellectual laziness \ninstead of willful difficulty. I don't want that to happen, nor do I want to \nquote a whole three pages, so I am giving a page range this time.\n\nI was looking up signs of hunger and after-meal sickness, but I never found \nit.  Instead, I would ask that anyone interested refer to pages 101-103 in In \nGreen's Jungles in their entirety.\n\nTo encapsulate my previous theories, the trees are the vanished Gods who \nrecombine with animals and people through blood to make the multilimbed \ncreatures of Green and Urth; the liana vines are primitive inhumu who have not \nyet feasted on human blood; Green is Urth in the future; some of Horn left \nSilk's body at the end of OBW when he sat under a tree, and the tree was \nresponsible for it.  So far so bad.  Now:\n\nChapter 6 of In Green's Jungles is entitled \"The Guessing Game\"  Our humble \nnarrator goes and sits on a log, and suddenly he is recounting the end of the \naffair of the man on Green in First Person instead of third.\np 102: \"At time sit seemed to me that a thousand inhumi must have been lurking \nbeneath the water,and that the points of light I aw were their glittering \neyes, softened by ripples,; but every few minutes a dark shape would pass \namong them like a floating log, and I would realize yet again that it was we, \nnot they, who populated the water.  \nNor was that all I saw.  Great hailress beasts, on two legs and four, and six, \ncame to the river to drink or to course our floating corpses as bears pursue \nfish, and I recalled the strangely named bear with which He pen sheep had \nexchanged blood, and wondered whether such bears sought carrion beside the \nrivers of shadelow.\"\nOver on page 103: \"Without Oreb to remind me, I might very well forget to eat \nand sleep.  Sudden enlightenment can be wonderful, as wonderful as the sight \nof hte Neighbor's light flashing through the dense foliage of the band had \nbeen to me.  But wonderful though it is, it is not the only way in which \nunderstanding comes.  A full day after that (I still remember how hungry I was \nby then), when something moved in ....\"  [he mistakes his sword for a carrion \nworm and it moves to his hand]\n\nOK.  So here we have the narrator sitting on a tree corpse and thinking about \nhis experience on Horn, then about 2, 4, and 6 legs after talking about a \nblood transfusion.  Also, we have the statement that when he thinks of the \ntrees floating by that it was \"us\" under the water.\n\nOreb reminds the narrator to eat and sleep, as if he doesn't want to naturally \nanymore.  I especially like how the blood assimilation of the native bear \nmakes the narrator think of legs doubling and tripling, which I have \nmaintained all along: trees eat people, spit out hybrid copies.  Now, if a \nhybrid of a tree and a man came about, could he live off of sunlight and eat \nwhen he had to as well, or is he stuck with just one form of sustenance?\n\nI really should stop; I have quite convinced myself that I will never convince \nanybody else.  Just be warned - if I am asked to look up anything in the book, \nI am liable to start posting the same things over and over.  I especially like \nthat the chapter starts with a discussion on enlightenment and is entitled \n\"The Guessing Game.\"  Ha ha.\n\nSorry.\nMarc Aramini"
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