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  "thread": {
    "id": 4232,
    "subject": "My thoughts on Knight",
    "messages": 2,
    "voices": 2,
    "first": "2004-09-29T01:46:26+00:00",
    "last": "2004-09-29T06:50:20+00:00"
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      "message_id": "<1e6.2bee9a88.2e8bd049@aol.com>",
      "from": {
        "name": "StoneOx17 at aol.com",
        "address": "stoneox17 at aol.com"
      },
      "date": "2004-09-29T01:46:26+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) My thoughts on Knight",
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          "text": "Hello everyone,\n\nIt's good to see that the migration to the new server was successful.  \nI haven't said anything about Knight yet, but I did have two thoughts \nthat I don't recall seeing discussed here.\n\nFirst, I can't believe that Wolfe thinks that it was a good idea for Able to\ndrop his quest, abandon his friends, abrogate his duty, and run off into \nelfland chasing visions of Disiri, as he does at the end of the book.  He \ndoes seem to get Grengarm out of it, which you'd think would be a good \nthing, but I bet that in Wizard we'll see that this side trip also has \nadverse consequences.\n\nSecond, the passage:\n\"If it's a woman's ghost,\" I said, \"she may be after some property or \nsomething she thinks is coming to her.  I talked to an old lady down \nsouth who knew a lot about ghosts, and she told me that women's\nghosts generally mean the woman was murdered.  More often than\nnot, justice is all they want.\"\nmade me think of Mrs. Tilly in Peace.  Is this is a hint for Peace?  \nEven if it's not, I'm now convinced that Mr. Tilly was indeed poisoned \nby his wife's ghost.\n\nStone Ox (Peter)"
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    {
      "message_id": "<088f01c4a62b$3c745d00$3700a8c0@crunchynut>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Andrew Bollen",
        "address": "abollen at internode.on.net"
      },
      "date": "2004-09-29T06:50:20+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) My thoughts on Knight",
      "in_reply_to": "<1e6.2bee9a88.2e8bd049@aol.com>",
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          "text": "StoneOx wrote:\n\n\"First, I can't believe that Wolfe thinks that it was a good idea for Able \nto\ndrop his quest, abandon his friends, abrogate his duty, and run off into\nelfland chasing visions of Disiri, as he does at the end of the book.  He\ndoes seem to get Grengarm out of it, which you'd think would be a good\nthing, but I bet that in Wizard we'll see that this side trip also has\nadverse consequences.\"\n\nFWIW, the publisher's blurb at Amazon says that all the quests get fulfilled \nin Wizard:\n\n\"A novel in two volumes, The Wizard Knight is in the rare company of those \nworks which move past the surface of fantasy and drink from the wellspring \nof myth. Magic swords, dragons, giants, quests, love, honor, nobility-all \nthe familiar features of fantasy come to fresh life in this masterful work.\n\nThe first half of the journey, The Knight -- which you are advised to read \nfirst, to let the whole story engulf you from the beginning -- took a \nteenage boy from America into Mythgarthr, the middle realm of seven \nfantastic worlds. Above are the gods of Skai; below are the capricious Aelf, \nand more dangerous things still. Journeying throughout Mythgarthr, Able \ngains a new brother, an Aelf queen lover, a supernatural hound, and the \ndesire to prove his honor and become the noble knight he always knew he \nwould be.\n\nComing into Jotunland, home of the Frost Giants, Able -- now Sir Able of the \nHigh Heart --claims the great sword Eterne from the dragon who has it. In \nreward, he is ushered into the castle of the Valfather, king of all the Gods \nof Skai.\n\nThus begins the second part of his quest. The Wizard begins with Able's \nreturn to Mythgathr on his steed Cloud, a great mare the color of her name. \nAble is filled with new knowledge of the ways of the seven-fold world and \npossessed of great magical secrets. His knighthood now beyond question, Able \nworks to fulfill his vows to his king, his lover, his friends, his gods, and \neven his enemies. Able must set his world right, restoring the proper order \namong the denizens of all the seven worlds.\n\nThe Wizard is a charming, riveting, emotionally charged tale of wonders, \nwritten with all the beauty one would expect from a writer whom Damon Knight \ncalled \"a national treasure.\" If you've never sampled the works of the man \nMichael Swanwick described as \"the greatest writer in the English language \nalive today,\" the two volumes of The Wizard Knight are the perfect place to \nstart. \""
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