# Urth/Blue *The Urth list — 5 messages, 3 voices, 10 Oct 2004* > Exported from an unofficial mirror of a public mailing list. Copyright > in each message remains with the person who wrote it. > Email addresses are obscured as `user at host`, the form the original > archive published. This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than > retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact. --- ### Scyetletull letetuwathe *10 Oct 2004, 14:18* I have not posted here before so I apologize if this topic has already been addressed and I just missed it. However, I am curious if anyone has discussed or considered the idea that Urth and Blue are actualy the same planet in a different time. My reasons for thinking this are as follows: I do not know exactly what is happening to the "red sun" of Urth but I do know that Sevarian describes the place in which he lives as having mild summers. If we assume that he is indeed somewhere in South America as some have theorized that means he is also near the equator. Unless I have missed something this means that it should be rather warm. So if this part of the world is substantialy colder than our present world as a result of the sun dieing I believe it is safe to asume that the rest of the world is even colder. This would mean that a good deal of the worlds water supply is frozen. So the coming of the new sun (a brighter and warmer sun) could potentialy melt the polar ice caps and flood the world. I don't see any reason why this couldnt be what the folks from the long sun call blue. If I am not mistaken the moon that Sevarian describes in BotNS is green. Please let me know if I am missing anything here... --- ### Dan'l Danehy-Oakes *10 Oct 2004, 15:32 · in reply to Scyetletull letetuwathe* There are approximately eight million, seven hundred thousand words on this subject in the archives... > On Sun, 10 Oct 2004 21:17:59 +0000, Scyetletull letetuwathe > wrote: > I have not posted here before so I apologize if this topic has already been > addressed and I just missed it. However, I am curious if anyone has > discussed or considered the idea that Urth and Blue are actualy the same > planet in a different time. My reasons for thinking this are as follows: > > I do not know exactly what is happening to the "red sun" of Urth but I do > know that Sevarian describes the place in which he lives as having mild > summers. If we assume that he is indeed somewhere in South America as some > have theorized that means he is also near the equator. Unless I have missed > something this means that it should be rather warm. So if this part of the > world is substantialy colder than our present world as a result of the sun > dieing I believe it is safe to asume that the rest of the world is even > colder. This would mean that a good deal of the worlds water supply is > frozen. So the coming of the new sun (a brighter and warmer sun) could > potentialy melt the polar ice caps and flood the world. > > I don't see any reason why this couldnt be what the folks from the long sun > call blue. If I am not mistaken the moon that Sevarian describes in BotNS is > green. > > Please let me know if I am missing anything here... > > _________________________________________________________________ > Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! > http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ > > _______________________________________________ --- ### James Wynn *10 Oct 2004, 17:24 · in reply to Dan'l Danehy-Oakes* >> I have not posted here before so I apologize if this topic has already >> been addressed and I just missed it. However, I am curious if anyone has >> discussed or considered the idea that Urth and Blue are actually the same >> planet in a different time. > There are approximately eight million, seven hundred thousand words on > this subject in the archives... Scyetletull, Welcome! Marc Aramini was (to my knowledge) the first and most adamant advocate for this theory (but he does not *exactly* hold it now). The most recent and heated discussion of this theory occurred while the list was down this year. Eventually (hopefully) that stuff will be migrated into the new archives However you can read his essay on this theory here: http://www.urth.org/whorlmap/chras-writers/marc-aramini1.htm I must forewarn you about dipping your toe in this subject unless you can offer an angle that would profoundly shift it's focus in a significantly indisputable manner. Some people feel strongly about both (and all) sides of this subject, other people have strong opinions about people who have strong opinions on the subject, and most people (who have read the threads) are just weary over the whole thing. But if you don't care about being popular around here, then certainly no one can stop you from posting. :-) ~ Crush --- ### Scyetletull letetuwathe *11 Oct 2004, 17:34 · follows James Wynn* Thank for linking me to the essay. I did not come here to argue but to seek more information on a topic I was curious about. If anyone else has any usefull links relating to this subject I would apreciate them... --- ### James Wynn *11 Oct 2004, 20:44 · in reply to Scyetletull letetuwathe* > Scyetletull letetuwathe said: > Thank for linking me to the essay. I did not come here to argue but to seek > more information on a topic I was curious about. Well, I'm sure you'll fit in around here just fine in spite of that. ;-) ~ Crush ---