# More Miéville *The Urth list — 1 messages, 1 voices, 04 Dec 2004* > Exported from an unofficial mirror of a public mailing list. Copyright > in each message remains with the person who wrote it. > Email addresses are obscured as `user at host`, the form the original > archive published. This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than > retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact. --- ### Tom Foster *04 Dec 2004, 01:20* I have read and enjoyed both PSS and The Scar, though I can definitely see where people are coming from with regard to Mi?ville being messy and in need of a better editor. I recently read Neal Stephenson's Snow Crash and was interested to see that the idea of 'Armada' had very likely been lifted from Stephenson's description of the Raft, with some gothic embellishments admittedly. Just thought this was worth poitning out given the comments regarding Mi?ville borrowing ideas from other authors... Tom > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 15:33:46 -0500 > From: "Alice K. Turner" > Subject: (urth) More Mieville > To: > Message-ID: <047f01c4d977$638e6af0$d27cae44@akt> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Ah, but I read The Scar first, then went back to PSS. Which makes me > completely agree with Dan'l about grotesquerie and the "wow" factor being > only good for one book. We simply started with different books. Though I > still applaud the Armada as a visual concept. > > -alga ---