# Dan'l *The Urth list — 1 messages, 1 voices, 17 Jan 2005* > Exported from an unofficial mirror of a public mailing list. Copyright > in each message remains with the person who wrote it. > Email addresses are obscured as `user at host`, the form the original > archive published. This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than > retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact. --- ### Jim Raylor *17 Jan 2005, 16:16* Riverrun etc. What shape is 5HOC? It depends how you look at it write all the words on a long strip of paper. But before you glue the ends together... give it a twist. Unequivocally it is moebius band. ---