# 5HC : Strong men weep and women faint. *The Urth list — 3 messages, 3 voices, 02 Feb 2005* > Exported from an unofficial mirror of a public mailing list. Copyright > in each message remains with the person who wrote it. > Email addresses are obscured as `user at host`, the form the original > archive published. This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than > retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact. --- ### Jim Raylor *02 Feb 2005, 19:09* A detective novel in which the first few pages have been removed by a sharp edge? No you are holding it upside down. When GW wrote 5HC he got around the usual problem with whodunnits. Once you reach the final pages you know what happened and (if it is good) you will never re-read it again without knowing the ending. But what is the last page in a novel shaped like a moebius band? You find it by a process of eliminaton and relaxation. I don't want to spoil it for others. ===== http://prisoner143.50megs.com/ I am not a number I am a free person! --- ### Maru Dubshinki *02 Feb 2005, 19:22 · in reply to Jim Raylor* In a moebius loop, you must go through 720 degrees to return from whence uou began, because one loop is 360 degrees, and you are flipped on the first loop, it takes a second. So the last degree is located precisely 719 degrees from the begining degree. There is a fake ending, when you reach 359 degrees, a tonic which fools you perhaps but doesn't return you to the key you began in (read 'Godel Escher Bach:...' if that makes no sense to you.). What makes you so sure you found the home key, the skeleton key, teh real solution? ~Maru No luck with Gmail still eh? that stinks. > On Thu, 3 Feb 2005 03:09:24 +0000 (GMT), Jim Raylor > wrote: > A detective novel in which the first few pages have > been removed by a sharp edge? > No you are holding it upside down. > When GW wrote 5HC he got around the usual problem with > whodunnits. > Once you reach the final pages you know what happened > and (if it is good) you will never re-read it again > without knowing the ending. > But what is the last page in a novel shaped like a > moebius band? > You find it by a process of eliminaton and relaxation. > I don't want to spoil it for others. > > ===== > http://prisoner143.50megs.com/ > > I am not a number I am a free person! > > > ___________________________________________________________ > ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ --- ### Nathan Spears *02 Feb 2005, 20:33 · in reply to Jim Raylor* > --- Jim Raylor wrote: > You find it by a process of eliminaton and relaxation. That sounds like a colonic. Do you guys think you could spend a little more time thinking and making your points clear before submitting a post? A proofread or two would also go a long way. ---