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  "thread": {
    "id": 4391,
    "subject": "tBotNS ref",
    "messages": 4,
    "voices": 3,
    "first": "2005-04-02T16:58:10+00:00",
    "last": "2005-04-10T17:25:36+00:00"
  },
  "messages": [
    {
      "message_id": "<424F3F9B.7000904@gmail.com>",
      "from": {
        "name": "maru",
        "address": "marudubshinki at gmail.com"
      },
      "date": "2005-04-02T16:58:10+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) tBotNS ref",
      "in_reply_to": null,
      "reply_link": null,
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          "text": "I realize none of you probably care, but seeing a reference to\nThe Book of The New Sun in a relatively mainstream media is so rare\nI feel compelled to pass it on.\n\n From www.pennyarcade.com:"
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "I cobbled together what I /expected/ to be a cache of terrible science \nfiction I could detest beneath an umbrella, and instead it proved so \nexcellent I've nearly exhausted my store. The Eyre Affair, apparently \na part of some larger series, is sci-fi of such a constrained genre \nthat I wasn't even aware it existed: romantic, /literary/ sci-fi, for \npeople who like stories about time travel, alternate universes, and \nclassic literature where the protagonist gets married at the end. \nRidiculous. Endearing. Like an exorbitant designer truffle too rich to \neat in plain view.\n\nAlso! There is an old series - both of these books are pretty old, \nactually - by an author named Gene Wolfe called \"The Book of The New \nSun.\" I believe it was originally four books, but they've been \ncompiled into two \n<http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0312890176/qid\u001112374369/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i1_xgl14/102-9811043-1345707?v=glance&s=books&nP7846> \nvolumes \n<http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0312890184/qid\u001112374369/sr=8-2/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i2_xgl14/102-9811043-1345707?v=glance&s=books&nP7846> \n- you may click those without fear, they are not \"make me rich\" links. \nI saw the cover, the one with the stern-looking scary sword guy, and \ndeclared aloud, \"Yes! This is /sure/ to be overwrought!\" but found \nnothing of the sort. It's science fantasy the equal of which I've \nnever read. I've also got Orson Scott Card's Seventh Son, a kind of \nearly American fantasy as I understand it, and I tremble in the hope \nthat I'll be three for three on this book thing."
        },
        {
          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "~Maru\n\nThe Pope is dead! Long reign the Pope!"
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "message_id": "<BAY2-F41BFD512A07BCCDAE8FB70D73A0@phx.gbl>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Seth Lombardi",
        "address": "sethlombardi at hotmail.com"
      },
      "date": "2005-04-02T17:42:18+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) penny-arcade.com tBotNS ref",
      "in_reply_to": "<424F3F9B.7000904@gmail.com>",
      "reply_link": "header",
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          "text": "Maru: I'm a big penny-arcade fan and would have missed this otherwise. You \ndo, however, need to put a hyphen in www.penny-arcade.com . And also that \nlink will be obsolete as of Monday, in which case people will have to go to \nthe old news post for that comic.\n\nFor those who don't know, Penny Arcade is a long-running webcomic strip \nobstensibly about video games but also about just about anything smart \npeople who play video games might find amusing, and seeing as how the \naverage age of gamers is 29, that's quite a lot these days. Tycho is the \nwriter of the comic - and plays the part both in fantasy and reality as the \nridiculously erudite and cerbral PC gamer, as contrasted against the artist \nconsole-gamer. I'd kind of assumed that he'd be a Wolfe fan, but it's good \nto know he finaly got around to finding him.\n\nseth\n*****************************\nSeth Lombardi\nsethlombardi at hotmail.com\nhttp://sethlombardi.blogspot.com/\nAIM: melombardi\n\"Two faces are alike; neither is funny by itself, but side by side their \nlikeness makes us laugh\" -Pascal"
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "message_id": "<424F4AEB.6040708@gmail.com>",
      "from": {
        "name": "maru",
        "address": "marudubshinki at gmail.com"
      },
      "date": "2005-04-02T17:46:25+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) penny-arcade.com tBotNS ref",
      "in_reply_to": "<BAY2-F41BFD512A07BCCDAE8FB70D73A0@phx.gbl>",
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          "text": "Seth Lombardi wrote:\nMaru: I'm a big penny-arcade fan and would have missed this otherwise. \nYou do, however, need to put a hyphen in www.penny-arcade.com . And \nalso that link will be obsolete as of Monday, in which case people \nwill have to go to the old news post for that comic."
        },
        {
          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "D'oh! \n/me is very ashamed, as I think the unhyphenated link leads to a porn site.\nWell, I included the relevant quote, so even when the link is obsoleted, \npeople could still know what was said, with context as well."
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "For those who don't know, Penny Arcade is a long-running webcomic \nstrip obstensibly about video games but also about just about anything \nsmart people who play video games might find amusing, and seeing as \nhow the average age of gamers is 29, that's quite a lot these days. \nTycho is the writer of the comic - and plays the part both in fantasy \nand reality as the ridiculously erudite and cerbral PC gamer, as \ncontrasted against the artist console-gamer. I'd kind of assumed that \nhe'd be a Wolfe fan, but it's good to know he finaly got around to \nfinding him."
        },
        {
          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "He is also a Frank Herbert fan as well, so I feel a sort of kinship \nlearning that he likes Wolfe too. :)"
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "seth\n*****************************\nSeth Lombardi\nsethlombardi at hotmail.com\nhttp://sethlombardi.blogspot.com/\nAIM: melombardi\n\"Two faces are alike; neither is funny by itself, but side by side \ntheir likeness makes us laugh\" -Pascal"
        },
        {
          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "~Maru"
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "message_id": "<baf5985a05041017255ddbd902@mail.gmail.com>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Samuel L.",
        "address": "exeunt at gmail.com"
      },
      "date": "2005-04-10T17:25:36+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) tBotNS ref",
      "in_reply_to": "<424F3F9B.7000904@gmail.com>",
      "reply_link": "header",
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          "text": "I care, as I'm a fan of Penny Arcade. I'm sad I missed that post, however.\n\nDoes anyone have other references to The Book of the New Sun?"
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "On Apr 2, 2005 7:58 PM, maru <marudubshinki at gmail.com> wrote:\n\nI realize none of you probably care, but seeing a reference to\nThe Book of The New Sun in a relatively mainstream media is so rare\nI feel compelled to pass it on.\n\nFrom www.pennyarcade.com <http://www.pennyarcade.com>:"
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 2,
          "text": "I cobbled together what I /expected/ to be a cache of terrible science\nfiction I could detest beneath an umbrella, and instead it proved so\nexcellent I've nearly exhausted my store. The Eyre Affair, apparently\na part of some larger series, is sci-fi of such a constrained genre\nthat I wasn't even aware it existed: romantic, /literary/ sci-fi, for\npeople who like stories about time travel, alternate universes, and\nclassic literature where the protagonist gets married at the end.\nRidiculous. Endearing. Like an exorbitant designer truffle too rich to\neat in plain view.\n\nAlso! There is an old series - both of these books are pretty old,\nactually - by an author named Gene Wolfe called \"The Book of The New\nSun.\" I believe it was originally four books, but they've been\ncompiled into two\n<\nhttp://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0312890176/qid\u001112374369/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i1_xgl14/102-9811043-1345707?v=glance&s=books&nP7846\n\nvolumes\n<\nhttp://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0312890184/qid\u001112374369/sr=8-2/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i2_xgl14/102-9811043-1345707?v=glance&s=books&nP7846\n\n- you may click those without fear, they are not \"make me rich\" links.\nI saw the cover, the one with the stern-looking scary sword guy, and\ndeclared aloud, \"Yes! This is /sure/ to be overwrought!\" but found\nnothing of the sort. It's science fantasy the equal of which I've\nnever read. I've also got Orson Scott Card's Seventh Son, a kind of\nearly American fantasy as I understand it, and I tremble in the hope\nthat I'll be three for three on this book thing."
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "~Maru\n\nThe Pope is dead! Long reign the Pope!\n_______________________________________________"
        }
      ]
    }
  ]
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