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  "thread": {
    "id": 4404,
    "subject": "Whom Does Wolfe Read?",
    "messages": 8,
    "voices": 8,
    "first": "2005-04-15T16:11:34+00:00",
    "last": "2005-04-16T16:32:36+00:00"
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    {
      "message_id": "<054401c54211$7e1611e0$cfe9b8a1@yourg4lzvxou0c>",
      "from": {
        "name": "John Barach",
        "address": "jbarach at telus.net"
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      "date": "2005-04-15T16:11:34+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Whom Does Wolfe Read?",
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          "text": "Urthers --\n\nWhen I read _Castle of Days_ for the first time earlier this year, I learned a bit about Wolfe's reading.  For instance, it's evident that he likes Ursula LeGuin, Nancy Kress, and Algis Budrys.\n\nToday, in a used book store, I came across Sharon Baker's _Journey to Membliar_, which had a blurb from Wolfe on the front, praising Baker highly.  I've never heard of her.  _Journey_ is apparently her second novel, following _Quarrelling, They Met the Dragon_ (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0380892014: the Amazon blurb is written by her son, apparently) and followed in turn by a sequel _Burning Tears of Sassurum_.  Anyone read these novels (besides Wolfe)?  Any good?\n\nWhat other authors has Wolfe praised or indicated that he enjoys?  What other books has Wolfe written blurbs for?\n\nCurious....\n\n\nJohn"
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    {
      "message_id": "<E1DMa1D-000Pjf-GE@oceanus.uk.clara.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Andy Robertson",
        "address": "andywrobertson at clara.co.uk"
      },
      "date": "2005-04-15T16:14:38+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Whom Does Wolfe Read?",
      "in_reply_to": "<054401c54211$7e1611e0$cfe9b8a1@yourg4lzvxou0c>",
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          "text": "Anyone read these novels (besides Wolfe)?  Any good?"
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          "text": "No, but I will "
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          "text": "What other authors has Wolfe praised or indicated that he enjoys?  "
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          "text": "Tolkien \n\n\nhttp://home.clara.net/andywrobertson/wolfemountains.html"
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      "message_id": "<2124d6b105041516144e4c034c@mail.gmail.com>",
      "from": {
        "name": "pthwndxrclzp",
        "address": "aquastor at gmail.com"
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      "date": "2005-04-15T16:24:09+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Whom Does Wolfe Read?",
      "in_reply_to": "<054401c54211$7e1611e0$cfe9b8a1@yourg4lzvxou0c>",
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          "text": "I know he's got a blurb on (of all things) Jennifer Stevenson's\nterrific \"Trash Sex Magic\" - see\nhttp://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1931520127/qid=1113606743/sr=8-1/ref=pd_csp_1/103-9442090-4694246?v=glance&s=books&n=507846\n\nStevenson's novel is a bit unusual, not to mention somewhat\nindescribable (and highly erotic, which Wolfe's work just is not,\nhence my surprise at the Wolfe blurb), but well worth reading. YMMV,\nof course."
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          "text": "On 4/15/05, John Barach <jbarach at telus.net> wrote:\n \nUrthers -- \n  \nWhen I read _Castle of Days_ for the first time earlier this year, I learned\na bit about Wolfe's reading.  For instance, it's evident that he likes\nUrsula LeGuin, Nancy Kress, and Algis Budrys. \n  \nToday, in a used book store, I came across Sharon Baker's _Journey to\nMembliar_, which had a blurb from Wolfe on the front, praising Baker highly.\n I've never heard of her.  _Journey_ is apparently her second novel,\nfollowing _Quarrelling, They Met the Dragon_\n(http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0380892014:\nthe Amazon blurb is written by her son, apparently) and followed in turn by\na sequel _Burning Tears of Sassurum_.  Anyone read these novels (besides\nWolfe)?  Any good? \n  \nWhat other authors has Wolfe praised or indicated that he enjoys?  What\nother books has Wolfe written blurbs for? \n  \nCurious.... \n  \n  \nJohn \n  \n  \n_______________________________________________"
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      "message_id": "<20050415234353.D3CF467CCD@melissa.nerdshack.com>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Richard Payton",
        "address": "rlpayton at mailshack.com"
      },
      "date": "2005-04-15T16:28:05+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Whom Does Wolfe Read?",
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          "text": "What other authors has Wolfe praised or indicated that he enjoys?  "
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          "text": "Borges, certainly. Also, from a 1986 interview with Larry McCaffery:\n\n\nLM: Who are some of the contemporary writers you most admire?\n\nGW: Among SF writers I'd include Algis Budrys, Joanna Russ, Ursula Le Guin,\nDamon Knight, Kate Wilhelm, Michael Bishop, Brian Aldiss, Nancy Kress,\nMichael Moorcock. Among non-SF writers I most enjoy are Nabokov (Pale Fire\nis a truly amazing book) and Borges. Of course . . . Lovecraft (who is\nusually regarded as a SF writer, but to me he's the real successor -- if\nthat's possible -- to Poe's line of horror.)"
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    {
      "message_id": "<001b01c5421b$0940a970$60a3f63f@wynnhouse>",
      "from": {
        "name": "James Wynn",
        "address": "thewynns at earthlink.net"
      },
      "date": "2005-04-15T17:27:15+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Whom Does Wolfe Read?",
      "in_reply_to": "<054401c54211$7e1611e0$cfe9b8a1@yourg4lzvxou0c>",
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          "text": "What other authors has Wolfe praised or\nindicated that he enjoys?  What other\nbooks has Wolfe written blurbs for?"
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          "text": "I going to presume we're talking fiction here. He wrote a gushing blurb for \na book of Avram Davidson's short stories. He's referred to Kate Wilhelm in \nseveral interviews and chats and Number 5 finds one of her books in \"The \nFifth Head\", so that's gotta be one. He *seems* to have been great friends \nwith Le Guin at one time but his affection for her work *seems* like it may \nhave declined with that friendship.\n\nHe's certainly not just a SF fan. He is a big fan of the Sherlock Holmes \nmysteries...probably the whole Mystery genre including Poe. He likes Dickens \nand Thackery (but you would know that from \"Castle of Days\"). He read a \nwhole lot of Kipling as a kid. He seems to have read most of C.S. Lewis and \nG.K. Chesterton. I'm told there are a lot Proust references in \"The New Sun\" \nbut I don't know enough about Proust to verify that.\n\nHe clearly likes Robert Graves and openly praises \"I, Claudius\".  His \nreferences to Greek Mythology are very often tapped directly from Graves' \n\"The Greek Myths\". And he likes World Mythology (not just the Greek \nstuff) -- look for a lot of Persian and Hittite mythology in his next Latro \nbook if it is ever finished.\n\n~ Crush "
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      "from": {
        "name": "Chris",
        "address": "rasputin_ at hotmail.com"
      },
      "date": "2005-04-16T01:44:01+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Whom Does Wolfe Read?",
      "in_reply_to": "<001b01c5421b$0940a970$60a3f63f@wynnhouse>",
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          "text": "He also dished out a big juicy quote on the virtues of the writing of \nFrankowski, which ended up attached as a blurb to one of the worst excuses \nfor a pulp novel I have ever seen. Lesson learned: do not trust blurbs, even \nfrom Wolfe."
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        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 2,
          "text": "What other authors has Wolfe praised or\nindicated that he enjoys?  What other\nbooks has Wolfe written blurbs for?"
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "I going to presume we're talking fiction here. He wrote a gushing blurb for \na book of Avram Davidson's short stories. He's referred to Kate Wilhelm in \nseveral interviews and chats and Number 5 finds one of her books in \"The \nFifth Head\", so that's gotta be one. He *seems* to have been great friends \nwith Le Guin at one time but his affection for her work *seems* like it may \nhave declined with that friendship.\n\nHe's certainly not just a SF fan. He is a big fan of the Sherlock Holmes \nmysteries...probably the whole Mystery genre including Poe. He likes \nDickens and Thackery (but you would know that from \"Castle of Days\"). He \nread a whole lot of Kipling as a kid. He seems to have read most of C.S. \nLewis and G.K. Chesterton. I'm told there are a lot Proust references in \n\"The New Sun\" but I don't know enough about Proust to verify that.\n\nHe clearly likes Robert Graves and openly praises \"I, Claudius\".  His \nreferences to Greek Mythology are very often tapped directly from Graves' \n\"The Greek Myths\". And he likes World Mythology (not just the Greek stuff) \n-- look for a lot of Persian and Hittite mythology in his next Latro book \nif it is ever finished.\n\n~ Crush\n\n\n_______________________________________________"
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "message_id": "<1f7617370504161349229f40d2@mail.gmail.com>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Dan'l Danehy-Oakes",
        "address": "danldo at gmail.com"
      },
      "date": "2005-04-16T13:49:10+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Whom Does Wolfe Read?",
      "in_reply_to": "<001b01c5421b$0940a970$60a3f63f@wynnhouse>",
      "reply_link": "header",
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          "text": "On 4/15/05, James Wynn <thewynns at earthlink.net> wrote:\nHe seems to have read most of C.S. Lewis and G.K. Chesterton."
        },
        {
          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "I don't think even Chesterton read most of Chesterton. There's\njust too much to read in one lifetime."
        },
        {
          "kind": "sig",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "You probably do not want to know what that odor is. \nhttp://www.livejournal.com/users/sturgeonslawyer"
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "message_id": "<1fb.6c0179f.2f92fa87@aol.com>",
      "from": {
        "name": "PacoGonzz at aol.com",
        "address": "pacogonzz at aol.com"
      },
      "date": "2005-04-16T16:32:36+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Re: Whom does Wolfe read?",
      "in_reply_to": "<1f7617370504161349229f40d2@mail.gmail.com>",
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          "text": "Neil Gaiman, of course!"
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