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This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact.", "addresses": "obscured as 'user at host'" }, "archive": "urth", "thread": { "id": 4428, "subject": "\"There Are Doors\" Comes To Japan", "messages": 7, "voices": 6, "first": "2005-05-23T04:58:15+00:00", "last": "2005-06-10T13:44:33+00:00" }, "messages": [ { "message_id": "<000501c55f8e$b3d2f970$60a3f63f@wynnhouse>", "from": { "name": "James Wynn", "address": "thewynns at earthlink.net" }, "date": "2005-05-23T04:58:15+00:00", "subject": "(urth) \"There Are Doors\" Comes To Japan", "in_reply_to": null, "reply_link": null, "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Japanese man gets jail time for 'kidnapping' dolls\n\nMay 23, 6:12 AM (ET)\n\nTOKYO (Reuters) - A Japanese man has been sentenced to five-and-a-half years \nin jail for snatching mannequins used by a cake shop chain to tout its \nwares.\n\"Peko-chan,\" a round-eyed doll around the size of a six-year-old, has been \nused by Fujiya Co. Ltd. to sell sweets for five decades and her grinning \ncountenance is a familiar sight in front of shops around Japan.\n\nRecently, however, she has become a favorite of collectors, leading to a \nrash of \"Peko-chan\" snatchings.\n\nTakeishi Shibuya, 31, was convicted of stealing 15 of the large dolls, \nvalued at about 1.1 million yen ($10,170), a court official in Yamagata \nprefecture, northern Japan, said on Monday.\n\nIn several cases, Shibuya used pepper spray and spray paint to fend off \nstore employees, leading prosecutors to demand a sentence of nine years in \nprison.\n\n\"But he has reflected on his crimes and feels bad about what he did, so the \nsentence was lighter as a result,\" the official said.\n\nAfter a wave of \"Peko-chan\" disappearances last year, the company suggested \nchaining the dolls down, but customers complained that this would be cruel." } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Maru Dubshinki", "address": "marudubshinki at gmail.com" }, "date": "2005-05-31T18:56:23+00:00", "subject": "(urth) \"There Are Doors\" Comes To Japan", "in_reply_to": "<000501c55f8e$b3d2f970$60a3f63f@wynnhouse>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "I'm afraid I plumb missed the 'There are doors' connection- I don't\nsee how it ties in. Explanation please?\n\n~Maru" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On 5/23/05, James Wynn wrote:\nJapanese man gets jail time for 'kidnapping' dolls\n\nMay 23, 6:12 AM (ET)\n\nTOKYO (Reuters) - A Japanese man has been sentenced to five-and-a-half years\nin jail for snatching mannequins used by a cake shop chain to tout its\nwares.\n\"Peko-chan,\" a round-eyed doll around the size of a six-year-old, has been\nused by Fujiya Co. Ltd. to sell sweets for five decades and her grinning\ncountenance is a familiar sight in front of shops around Japan.\n\nRecently, however, she has become a favorite of collectors, leading to a\nrash of \"Peko-chan\" snatchings.\n\nTakeishi Shibuya, 31, was convicted of stealing 15 of the large dolls,\nvalued at about 1.1 million yen ($10,170), a court official in Yamagata\nprefecture, northern Japan, said on Monday.\n\nIn several cases, Shibuya used pepper spray and spray paint to fend off\nstore employees, leading prosecutors to demand a sentence of nine years in\nprison.\n\n\"But he has reflected on his crimes and feels bad about what he did, so the\nsentence was lighter as a result,\" the official said.\n\nAfter a wave of \"Peko-chan\" disappearances last year, the company suggested\nchaining the dolls down, but customers complained that this would be cruel.\n\n\n_______________________________________________" } ] }, { "message_id": "<000301c56660$e20a5a30$60a3f63f@wynnhouse>", "from": { "name": "James Wynn", "address": "thewynns at earthlink.net" }, "date": "2005-05-31T21:17:43+00:00", "subject": "(urth) \"There Are Doors\" Comes To Japan", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Just a general obsession with dolls...treating them like people ala the \nconcern that chaining them would be cruel. My first thought when I read the \narticle was TAD.\n (shrug)\n\n----- Original Message ----- \nFrom: \"Maru Dubshinki\" \nTo: \"The Urth Mailing List\" \nSent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 8:56 PM\nSubject: Re: (urth) \"There Are Doors\" Comes To Japan\n\n\n\nI'm afraid I plumb missed the 'There are doors' connection- I don't\nsee how it ties in. Explanation please?\n\n~Maru" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On 5/23/05, James Wynn wrote:\nJapanese man gets jail time for 'kidnapping' dolls\n\nMay 23, 6:12 AM (ET)\n\nTOKYO (Reuters) - A Japanese man has been sentenced to five-and-a-half \nyears\nin jail for snatching mannequins used by a cake shop chain to tout its\nwares.\n\"Peko-chan,\" a round-eyed doll around the size of a six-year-old, has been\nused by Fujiya Co. Ltd. to sell sweets for five decades and her grinning\ncountenance is a familiar sight in front of shops around Japan.\n\nRecently, however, she has become a favorite of collectors, leading to a\nrash of \"Peko-chan\" snatchings.\n\nTakeishi Shibuya, 31, was convicted of stealing 15 of the large dolls,\nvalued at about 1.1 million yen ($10,170), a court official in Yamagata\nprefecture, northern Japan, said on Monday.\n\nIn several cases, Shibuya used pepper spray and spray paint to fend off\nstore employees, leading prosecutors to demand a sentence of nine years in\nprison.\n\n\"But he has reflected on his crimes and feels bad about what he did, so \nthe\nsentence was lighter as a result,\" the official said.\n\nAfter a wave of \"Peko-chan\" disappearances last year, the company \nsuggested\nchaining the dolls down, but customers complained that this would be \ncruel.\n\n\n_______________________________________________\nUrth Mailing List\nTo post, write urth at urth.net\nSubscription/information: http://www.urth.net" } ] }, { "message_id": "<20050603075346.28346.qmail@web54204.mail.yahoo.com>", "from": { "name": "nastler", "address": "nastler at yahoo.dk" }, "date": "2005-06-03T00:53:49+00:00", "subject": "SV: Re: (urth) \"There Are Doors\" Comes To Japan", "in_reply_to": "<000301c56660$e20a5a30$60a3f63f@wynnhouse>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Or Hethor...\n\n--- James Wynn skrev:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "Just a general obsession with dolls...treating them\nlike people ala the \nconcern that chaining them would be cruel. My first\nthought when I read the \narticle was TAD.\n (shrug)\n\n----- Original Message ----- \nFrom: \"Maru Dubshinki\" \nTo: \"The Urth Mailing List\"\n\nSent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 8:56 PM\nSubject: Re: (urth) \"There Are Doors\" Comes To Japan\n\n\n\nI'm afraid I plumb missed the 'There are doors'\nconnection- I don't\nsee how it ties in. Explanation please?\n\n~Maru\n\nOn 5/23/05, James Wynn \nwrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "Japanese man gets jail time for 'kidnapping' dolls\n\nMay 23, 6:12 AM (ET)\n\nTOKYO (Reuters) - A Japanese man has been\nsentenced to five-and-a-half \nyears\nin jail for snatching mannequins used by a cake\nshop chain to tout its\nwares.\n\"Peko-chan,\" a round-eyed doll around the size of\na six-year-old, has been\nused by Fujiya Co. Ltd. to sell sweets for five\ndecades and her grinning\ncountenance is a familiar sight in front of shops\naround Japan.\n\nRecently, however, she has become a favorite of\ncollectors, leading to a\nrash of \"Peko-chan\" snatchings.\n\nTakeishi Shibuya, 31, was convicted of stealing 15\nof the large dolls,\nvalued at about 1.1 million yen ($10,170), a court\nofficial in Yamagata\nprefecture, northern Japan, said on Monday.\n\nIn several cases, Shibuya used pepper spray and\nspray paint to fend off\nstore employees, leading prosecutors to demand a\nsentence of nine years in\nprison.\n\n\"But he has reflected on his crimes and feels bad\nabout what he did, so \nthe\nsentence was lighter as a result,\" the official\nsaid.\n\nAfter a wave of \"Peko-chan\" disappearances last\nyear, the company \nsuggested\nchaining the dolls down, but customers complained\nthat this would be \ncruel.\n\n\n_______________________________________________" } ] }, { "message_id": "<6.2.1.2.0.20050602183425.05cf8d30@pop.vippn.com>", "from": { "name": "Dan", "address": "autarch at vippn.com" }, "date": "2005-06-09T17:13:20+00:00", "subject": "(urth) \"There Are Doors\" Comes To Japan", "in_reply_to": "<000301c56660$e20a5a30$60a3f63f@wynnhouse>", "reply_link": "subject", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Oddly enough, i just finished reading There Are Doors this morning.\n\nIt was the best Philip K. Dick novel I ever read that was not written by \nPhilip K. Dick.\n\nWhat of Mr. Klamm's relationship to Mr. Green? Same guy at two different \ntimes or just two different blokes in the same circumstances (only one is \nbeginiing his pursuit and the other nearing the end)?\n\nDan" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "------------------------------\n\nMessage: 2\nDate: Tue, 31 May 2005 23:15:28 -0500\nFrom: \"James Wynn\" \nSubject: Re: (urth) \"There Are Doors\" Comes To Japan\nTo: \"The Urth Mailing List\" \nMessage-ID: <000301c56660$e20a5a30$60a3f63f@wynnhouse>\nContent-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=\"iso-8859-1\";\n reply-type=original\n\nJust a general obsession with dolls...treating them like people ala the\nconcern that chaining them would be cruel. My first thought when I read the\narticle was TAD.\n (shrug)\n\n----- Original Message -----\nFrom: \"Maru Dubshinki\" \nTo: \"The Urth Mailing List\" \nSent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 8:56 PM\nSubject: Re: (urth) \"There Are Doors\" Comes To Japan\n\n\n\nI'm afraid I plumb missed the 'There are doors' connection- I don't\nsee how it ties in. Explanation please?\n\n~Maru\n\nOn 5/23/05, James Wynn wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "Japanese man gets jail time for 'kidnapping' dolls\n\nMay 23, 6:12 AM (ET)\n\nTOKYO (Reuters) - A Japanese man has been sentenced to five-and-a-half\nyears\nin jail for snatching mannequins used by a cake shop chain to tout its\nwares.\n\"Peko-chan,\" a round-eyed doll around the size of a six-year-old, has been\nused by Fujiya Co. Ltd. to sell sweets for five decades and her grinning\ncountenance is a familiar sight in front of shops around Japan.\n\nRecently, however, she has become a favorite of collectors, leading to a\nrash of \"Peko-chan\" snatchings.\n\nTakeishi Shibuya, 31, was convicted of stealing 15 of the large dolls,\nvalued at about 1.1 million yen ($10,170), a court official in Yamagata\nprefecture, northern Japan, said on Monday.\n\nIn several cases, Shibuya used pepper spray and spray paint to fend off\nstore employees, leading prosecutors to demand a sentence of nine years in\nprison.\n\n\"But he has reflected on his crimes and feels bad about what he did, so\nthe\nsentence was lighter as a result,\" the official said.\n\nAfter a wave of \"Peko-chan\" disappearances last year, the company\nsuggested\nchaining the dolls down, but customers complained that this would be\ncruel.\n\n\n_______________________________________________" } ] }, { "message_id": "<78b03d561f5d0421b4cd3bcf130c2587@cogsci.ucsd.edu>", "from": { "name": "Adrian Robert", "address": "arobert at cogsci.ucsd.edu" }, "date": "2005-06-10T12:29:10+00:00", "subject": "(urth) \"There Are Doors\" Comes To Japan", "in_reply_to": "<6.2.1.2.0.20050602183425.05cf8d30@pop.vippn.com>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On Jun 2, 2005, at 7:34 PM, Dan wrote:\nOddly enough, i just finished reading There Are Doors this morning.\n\nIt was the best Philip K. Dick novel I ever read that was not written \nby Philip K. Dick.\n\nWhat of Mr. Klamm's relationship to Mr. Green? Same guy at two \ndifferent times or just two different blokes in the same circumstances \n(only one is beginiing his pursuit and the other nearing the end)?" }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Hi,\n\nIt's been a while since I've read it so I won't answer this here, but, \nif you haven't already, read _The Castle_ by Kafka. It really deepens \nthe experience, and a lot of things will fall into different \nperspectives..\n\nenjoy,\nAdrian" } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Chris", "address": "rasputin_ at hotmail.com" }, "date": "2005-06-10T13:44:33+00:00", "subject": "(urth) \"There Are Doors\" Comes To Japan", "in_reply_to": "<78b03d561f5d0421b4cd3bcf130c2587@cogsci.ucsd.edu>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Klamm could best be described as a priest (perhaps the high priest) of \nCybele/Rhea. The same could be said to be true of Green, but Green is also \nsupposedly Attis/Dionysus. Since the priests of Cybele actually emulate \nAttis, there's obviously going to be a close, apparent relationship there. \nBut I think we are led to believe that Green is \"the real deal\", so to \nspeak." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On Jun 2, 2005, at 7:34 PM, Dan wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "Oddly enough, i just finished reading There Are Doors this morning.\n\nIt was the best Philip K. Dick novel I ever read that was not written by \nPhilip K. Dick.\n\nWhat of Mr. Klamm's relationship to Mr. Green? Same guy at two different \ntimes or just two different blokes in the same circumstances (only one is \nbeginiing his pursuit and the other nearing the end)?" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "Hi,\n\nIt's been a while since I've read it so I won't answer this here, but, if \nyou haven't already, read _The Castle_ by Kafka. It really deepens the \nexperience, and a lot of things will fall into different perspectives..\n\nenjoy,\nAdrian" } ] } ] }