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  "thread": {
    "id": 451,
    "subject": "Forgotten Names ... and Other Dangers",
    "messages": 1,
    "voices": 1,
    "first": "1998-03-28T10:31:40+00:00",
    "last": "1998-03-28T10:31:40+00:00"
  },
  "messages": [
    {
      "message_id": "<urth-v0008-0677@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Charles Dye",
        "address": "raster at highfiber.com"
      },
      "date": "1998-03-28T10:31:40+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Forgotten Names ... and Other Dangers",
      "in_reply_to": null,
      "reply_link": null,
      "blocks": [
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          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "From: C R Culver <CRCulver at aol.com>\nSubject: Urth's Unknown Names\n\nJust been thinking lately about secret, forgotten, or just plain unknown names\nin the BotNS:\n\n1) Hethor's real name\n2) The real name of the town that forgot Fauna\n3) Valeria's second husband (who *was* he? any ideas?)"
        },
        {
          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "This one, at least, we know.  Dux Caesidius was one of Severian's military\ncommanders during the Ascian War.  He never appears in the texts, but we\ndo know that he looks something like Severian himself.\n\n\"Dux\" is, I believe, a Latin word meaning \"leader,\" a cognate to \"duke.\"\nThe whole bit about Valeria's remarriage seems to be meant to suggest\nClaudius's betrayal by Valeria Messalina, but Severian's Valeria comes\noff as simply lonely, rather than nympho-bitch."
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "4) The names of the planets beside Urth, Verthandi, Skuld, and Dis."
        },
        {
          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "Wasn't \"Abbadon\" Mercury?  I believe this tidbit appears in Severian's\nNight on the Bald Mountain."
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "5) The names of the 17 Megatherians (doesn't really matter, though), or a\nsingle member of the Group of Seventeen"
        },
        {
          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "What makes you think that the G17 *have* names?  The captured Ascian soldier\nin the lazaret has presumably had far less contact with Erebus, Abaia and\nCompany.  He's still human, more or less.  But he has to make do with \"Loyal\nto the Group of Seventeen\" -- not much of a name, IMHO.  I suspect that the\nactual components of that group will have even less individuality."
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "6) The previous Lictor of Thrax.\n7) Cyriaca's husband.\n8) The name of Dorcas' (\"Cas\") husband.\n9) The Cumaean's real name, if any.\n10) The name (and purpose) of Baldanders' undine."
        },
        {
          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "Oddly enough, one of the undines has essentially the same name as the\nlake where Baldanders's castle stands:  Juturna = Diuturna, as \"diurnal\"\nbecame our \"journal.\"\n\nraster at highfiber.com"
        }
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