# Book of the new sun (1-4) questions

*The Urth list — 2 messages, 2 voices, 21 Feb 2006*

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### Duncan Truter
*21 Feb 2006, 00:12*

Hi

I just finished reading the botns again, and I have a few questions.
I've searched for these in the list already, and couldn't find the
answers.

1: what happened at the piteous gate? there was a riot, there were
clone soldiers...

did a member of severian's party cause all of that?

2: what was awakened in the cave?

3: how many times does severian die? all I can think of right now is:
-drowned as a child
-possibly died in the cart with agia
-killed by the avern

can't remember any more, but I remember someone mentioning on this
list that he was killed by a big gun in the citadel? I haven't re read
urth of the new sun yet though, so not asking about that, yet.

Thanks for your help. (Reading island of Doctor Death and other
stories and other stories at the moment)

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### Maru Dubshinki
*21 Feb 2006, 05:47 · in reply to Duncan Truter*

> On 2/20/06, Duncan Truter <dtruter at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi
> 
> I just finished reading the botns again, and I have a few questions.
> I've searched for these in the list already, and couldn't find the
> answers.
> 
> 1: what happened at the piteous gate? there was a riot, there were
> clone soldiers...

Some think hethrir caused the riot with a beast. I've also seen
suggestions that the guards were trying to get at Jonas.

> did a member of severian's party cause all of that?
> 
> 2: what was awakened in the cave?
> 
> 3: how many times does severian die? all I can think of right now is:
> -drowned as a child
> -possibly died in the cart with agia
> -killed by the avern

The UotNS has a couple deaths, notably falling down the shaft in the ship.

> can't remember any more, but I remember someone mentioning on this
> list that he was killed by a big gun in the citadel? I haven't re read
> urth of the new sun yet though, so not asking about that, yet.
> 
> Thanks for your help. (Reading island of Doctor Death and other
> stories and other stories at the moment)

~Maru

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