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    "id": 4549,
    "subject": "Hethor, Descartes and the \"paracoita\"",
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    "first": "2006-03-21T16:19:46+00:00",
    "last": "2006-03-21T16:23:49+00:00"
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      "from": {
        "name": "James Machin",
        "address": "jfmachin at hotmail.com"
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      "date": "2006-03-21T16:19:46+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Hethor, Descartes and the \"paracoita\"",
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          "text": "I'm a new poster, so please ignore if I'm covering old, old ground. I've \nsearched the archives but can't find any previous reference to this...\n\nI recently came across a passage in a book I'm reading (a biography of Kant) \nabout Descartes’ personal \"automaton\". The following excerpt from an article \nin the Daily Telegraph gives a good summation of the story:\n\nThe great philosopher went on a sea voyage to Sweden, telling people he was \ntravelling with his daughter Francine. As the journey went on, the girl \nnever appeared, and curious sailors finally entered Descartes’ cabin. They \nfound only a mechanical doll, which horrified them so much that they threw \nher overboard. \n(http://www.telegraph.co.uk/arts/main.jhtml?xml=/arts/2002/03/05/bodoll02.xml)\n\nOf course, this scenario of the mechanical doll stowed in a cabin instantly \nreminded me of Hethor's lost \"paracoita\". Presumably, this is intentional on \nWolfe's part..."
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      "from": {
        "name": "Duncan Truter",
        "address": "dtruter at gmail.com"
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      "date": "2006-03-21T16:23:49+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Hethor, Descartes and the \"paracoita\"",
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          "text": "this reminds me a lot of the story in 'the island of doctor death and\nother stories and other stories'. can't remember the name, it's the\none about the puppeteers, with human-sized puppets.\n\nthe protagonist seems to be a puppet/have some kind of relationship\nwith his own puppet/all of the above, and there's a part where he\nmeets somone who may be a puppet herself."
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          "text": "On 3/21/06, James Machin <jfmachin at hotmail.com> wrote:\nI'm a new poster, so please ignore if I'm covering old, old ground. I've\nsearched the archives but can't find any previous reference to this...\n\nI recently came across a passage in a book I'm reading (a biography of Kant)\nabout Descartes' personal \"automaton\". The following excerpt from an article\nin the Daily Telegraph gives a good summation of the story:\n\nThe great philosopher went on a sea voyage to Sweden, telling people he was\ntravelling with his daughter Francine. As the journey went on, the girl\nnever appeared, and curious sailors finally entered Descartes' cabin. They\nfound only a mechanical doll, which horrified them so much that they threw\nher overboard.\n(http://www.telegraph.co.uk/arts/main.jhtml?xml=/arts/2002/03/05/bodoll02.xml)\n\nOf course, this scenario of the mechanical doll stowed in a cabin instantly\nreminded me of Hethor's lost \"paracoita\". Presumably, this is intentional on\nWolfe's part...\n\n\n\n\n_______________________________________________"
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