# Changing Sev *The Urth list — 4 messages, 3 voices, 08 Apr 2006* > Exported from an unofficial mirror of a public mailing list. Copyright > in each message remains with the person who wrote it. > Email addresses are obscured as `user at host`, the form the original > archive published. This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than > retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact. --- ### thalassocrat at nym.hush.com *08 Apr 2006, 07:39* On the same theme as before ... In Ch IV of Shadow, Sev says of his finding Triskele: "I felt that it could have & should have changed everything, but it was only the episode of a few months [ie, the week he had him & the remainder of winter, during which he saw him once or twice a month] and when it was over ... nothing had changed." In Ch 19 of RTTW, Sev makes his comment about not putting SilkHorn in his book, because nobody would believe it. Remembering this prompts Hide/Hoof (whichever) to write his little passage about SilkHorn's terrifying goodness, concluding: "... I think when somebody is really, really good, as good as he was, the rules change." So maybe a hint that the change Sev had expected in Shadow will now actually occur in a new time-line, because of SilkHorn. Thinking about what happens to Sev during the RTTW episodes, I do find it hard to believe that subsequent events will follow the New Sun course. Can Sev really carry on as torturer after basking in the glow of SilkHorn's preternatrual goodness? Interrupted by Oreb while dragging Sev away, Gurloes flees from what he thinks is a sudden apparition of the dead Malrubius. Instead of following him, Sev calmly takes his visitors down to meet Triskele. What would the next meeting between Gurloes and Sev be like??? I don't see Sev getting away from any such meeting free & unmaimed. I think Sev's off through the underground corridoors with Triskele, a torturer no more ... Actually, though, the first meeting between Sev and SilkHorn is also puzzling in this regard. SilkHorn, Hamer, Jahlee & presumably a whole bunch of others from Hamer's courtroom get locked up in the Matachin tower, no doubt on the orders of Gurloes (whom SilkHorn sees; after a while they disappear. What does Gurloes do??? Also, Sev brings SilkHorn pens and paper and hangs out with him, totally contravening ati-ftaernization codes of conduct in a w --- ### Roy C. Lackey *08 Apr 2006, 18:11 · follows thalassocrat at nym.hush.com* > Andrew wrote: > Actually, though, the first meeting between Sev and SilkHorn is > also puzzling in this regard. SilkHorn, Hamer, Jahlee & presumably > a whole bunch of others from Hamer's courtroom get locked up in the > Matachin tower, no doubt on the orders of Gurloes (whom SilkHorn > sees; after a while they disappear. What does Gurloes do??? Also, > Sev brings SilkHorn pens and paper and hangs out with him, totally > contravening ati-ftaernization codes of conduct in a w Your post broke off mid-word. Where's the rest of it? -Roy --- ### thalassocrat at nym.hush.com *08 Apr 2006, 21:20 · follows Roy C. Lackey* > On Sun, 09 Apr 2006 04:11:19 +1000 "Roy C. Lackey" > wrote: > Your post broke off mid-word. Where's the rest of it? Oops - wanted to think more about that; left it in by mistake. --- ### Thomas Bitterman *17 Apr 2006, 01:52 · in reply to thalassocrat at nym.hush.com* > thalassocrat at nym.hush.com wrote: > Thinking about what happens to Sev during the RTTW episodes, I do > find it hard to believe that subsequent events will follow the New > Sun course. If they don't, how will Sev write the book that Wolfe found and we read? > Can Sev really carry on as torturer after basking in > the glow of SilkHorn's preternatrual goodness? > Many people were able to continue being bad after meeting SilkHorn. I'd like to think that Severian found SilkHorn just as tedious as I did and was just humoring a well-meaning but dotty old man. Perhaps Wolfe is using the meeting to point out the dangers of using a book written many years after a previous book to interpret the former. enamel ---