{ "export": { "source": "https://urth.darkrealm.vip/thread/urth/4607", "note": "Exported from an unofficial mirror of a public mailing list. Copyright in each message remains with the person who wrote it. Email addresses are obscured as `user at host`, the form the original archive published. This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact.", "addresses": "obscured as 'user at host'" }, "archive": "urth", "thread": { "id": 4607, "subject": "is Gene Wolfe among us?", "messages": 8, "voices": 5, "first": "2006-05-20T21:55:30+00:00", "last": "2006-05-23T06:34:51+00:00" }, "messages": [ { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "b sharp", "address": "bsharporflat at hotmail.com" }, "date": "2006-05-20T21:55:30+00:00", "subject": "(urth) is Gene Wolfe among us?", "in_reply_to": null, "reply_link": null, "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Once there was a rumor that Gene Wolfe was disguised in this community. If \nthat were true, how could we identify him?\n\nIf he is actually a technophobe then we wouldn't expect he has been here \nfrom the begininning. But once he arrived we'd expect him to be intelligent \nand insightful, yet circumspect. To make regular entries focusing on \nfactual evidence more than grand fanciful theories. His writing would \nreflect the culture of an older American.\n\nWhat sort of name would he choose? Since this archive is composed of his \nloyal fans, he might pick a name which reflects his feeling that he is our \nhumble servant, the artist serving his patrons. On the other hand his name \nmight also reflect that he and his work are the focus, the center of \neverything here; that we honor and revere him. His name might also reflect \nthat this is a place where an anonymous sovereign might view his subjects, \nthe monarch can see his vassals, lord see peons,\nKing C. Servant\n\n-bsharp (=what note on the keyboard?)" } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "mournings glory", "address": "mourningsglory at hotmail.com" }, "date": "2006-05-21T00:19:22+00:00", "subject": "(urth) is Gene Wolfe among us?", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "From: \"b sharp\" \nReply-To: The Urth Mailing List \nTo: urth at lists.urth.net\nSubject: (urth) is Gene Wolfe among us?\nDate: Sat, 20 May 2006 17:55:30 -0400\n\nOnce there was a rumor that Gene Wolfe was disguised in this community. If\nthat were true, how could we identify him?\n\nIf he is actually a technophobe then we wouldn't expect he has been here\nfrom the begininning. But once he arrived we'd expect him to be intelligent\nand insightful, yet circumspect. To make regular entries focusing on\nfactual evidence more than grand fanciful theories. His writing would\nreflect the culture of an older American.\n\nWhat sort of name would he choose? Since this archive is composed of his\nloyal fans, he might pick a name which reflects his feeling that he is our\nhumble servant, the artist serving his patrons. On the other hand his name\nmight also reflect that he and his work are the focus, the center of\neverything here; that we honor and revere him. His name might also reflect\nthat this is a place where an anonymous sovereign might view his subjects,\nthe monarch can see his vassals, lord see peons,\nKing C. Servant" }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "*Ahem.* Pardon the familiarity, Roy, but I believe this is addressed to you.\n\n\nemmmmm" } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "maru dubshinki", "address": "marudubshinki at gmail.com" }, "date": "2006-05-21T00:44:50+00:00", "subject": "(urth) is Gene Wolfe among us?", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "On 5/20/06, mournings glory wrote:\nFrom: \"b sharp\" \nReply-To: The Urth Mailing List \nTo: urth at lists.urth.net\nSubject: (urth) is Gene Wolfe among us?\nDate: Sat, 20 May 2006 17:55:30 -0400\n\nOnce there was a rumor that Gene Wolfe was disguised in this community. If\nthat were true, how could we identify him?\n\nIf he is actually a technophobe then we wouldn't expect he has been here\nfrom the begininning. But once he arrived we'd expect him to be intelligent\nand insightful, yet circumspect. To make regular entries focusing on\nfactual evidence more than grand fanciful theories. His writing would\nreflect the culture of an older American.\n\nWhat sort of name would he choose? Since this archive is composed of his\nloyal fans, he might pick a name which reflects his feeling that he is our\nhumble servant, the artist serving his patrons. On the other hand his name\nmight also reflect that he and his work are the focus, the center of\neverything here; that we honor and revere him. His name might also reflect\nthat this is a place where an anonymous sovereign might view his subjects,\nthe monarch can see his vassals, lord see peons,\nKing C. Servant" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "*Ahem.* Pardon the familiarity, Roy, but I believe this is addressed to you.\n\n\nemmmmm" }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "I am a dunce. It actually took me a few moments to get this one.\n\n~maru\nRoi c. lackey" } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "b sharp", "address": "bsharporflat at hotmail.com" }, "date": "2006-05-22T11:09:04+00:00", "subject": "(urth) is Gene Wolfe among us?", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "subject", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Just so it is clear, my original post in this thread was completely \ntongue-in-cheek. If I really thought Roy was Gene Wolfe I wouldn't out him \nin such a cavalier manner. If there was any purpose to it, other than play, \nit might be as a parable to warn against the dangers of seeking only \npositive evidence when trying to support a pet theory." } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "mournings glory", "address": "mourningsglory at hotmail.com" }, "date": "2006-05-22T14:55:58+00:00", "subject": "(urth) is Gene Wolfe among us?", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "From: \"b sharp\" " }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "Just so it is clear, my original post in this thread was completely\ntongue-in-cheek. If I really thought Roy was Gene Wolfe I wouldn't out him\nin such a cavalier manner. If there was any purpose to it, other than \nplay,\nit might be as a parable to warn against the dangers of seeking only\npositive evidence when trying to support a pet theory." }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Couple points you missed, however: Gene Wolfe has both a father and a son \nnamed Roy, and hails originally from Tejas, as does, I believe, Mr. Lackey \n(who himself, so ignominiously outed, has yet to undot the conspiracy 'i').\n\nmg" } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Transentient", "address": "transentient at gmail.com" }, "date": "2006-05-22T15:17:58+00:00", "subject": "(urth) is Gene Wolfe among us?", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On May 22, 2006, at 7:09 AM, b sharp wrote:\nJust so it is clear, my original post in this thread was completely\ntongue-in-cheek. If I really thought Roy was Gene Wolfe I wouldn't \nout him\nin such a cavalier manner. If there was any purpose to it, other \nthan play,\nit might be as a parable to warn against the dangers of seeking only\npositive evidence when trying to support a pet theory." }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "It would put Roy's general denouncement of Able and WK late last year \nin a new light..." } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "b sharp", "address": "bsharporflat at hotmail.com" }, "date": "2006-05-22T15:34:50+00:00", "subject": "(urth) is Gene Wolfe among us?", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "subject", "blocks": [ { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "Couple points you missed, however: Gene Wolfe has both a father and a son\nnamed Roy, and hails originally from Tejas, as does, I believe, Mr. Lackey\n(who himself, so ignominiously outed, has yet to undot the conspiracy 'i').>" }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "OMG what have I done!!\nhttp://www.maison-de-stuff.net/john/pictures/ParisFeb2005/SANY0060.JPG\n\nSorry Gene!" } ] }, { "message_id": "<001201c67e33$024bed00$463ec6d8@rclackey.stic.net>", "from": { "name": "Roy C. Lackey", "address": "rclackey at stic.net" }, "date": "2006-05-23T06:34:51+00:00", "subject": "(urth) is Gene Wolfe among us?", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "subject", "blocks": [ { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "b sharp wrote:\nJust so it is clear, my original post in this thread was completely\ntongue-in-cheek. If I really thought Roy was Gene Wolfe I wouldn't out him\nin such a cavalier manner. If there was any purpose to it, other than\nplay,\nit might be as a parable to warn against the dangers of seeking only\npositive evidence when trying to support a pet theory." }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "I have been known to inveigh against buffet-style theorizing myself, but it\nis usually a waste of time. People tend to see what they want to see.\nMeanwhile, carry on!\n\nWho was that in the picture?\n\n-Roy" } ] } ] }