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    "id": 4691,
    "subject": "Satyricon and Soldier",
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    "first": "2006-08-18T21:15:04+00:00",
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      "from": {
        "name": "Adam Thornton",
        "address": "adam at io.com"
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      "date": "2006-08-18T21:15:04+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Satyricon and Soldier",
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          "text": "I assume this has been mentioned before, but, uh, everyone's aware of  \nhow much the Latro books read like _The Satyricon_--the damaged Latin- \nspeaking hero on a quest throughout the Roman world to appease his  \ngod--right?\n\nIt's just that the holes in Latro's story come from the hole in his  \nhead, rather than the holes in a text passed down less-than- \nfaithfully for two millennia.\n\nI'm rereading _The Satyricon_ as research for a project I'm working  \non, and I was struck by how familiar a lot of it felt.\n\nAdam"
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        "name": "Russell Wodell",
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      "date": "2006-08-18T21:41:46+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Satyricon and Soldier",
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          "text": "Hmmm...that begs that question whether Wolfe ever saw Federico Fellini's \nremarkable 1969 film version of Sayricon, in which the bold leaps across the \nnarrative gaps are memorably disorienting, if you will excuse the pun. There \nmight just possibly be a structural influence. ... even though there are \nmany centuries between pre-classic Greece and Petronius.\n\nOr could that have inspired the future-influencing-the-past structure of \nBook of the New Sun? (Just kidding.)\n\nActually, the film that springs to mind re: Latro would be the classic Ray \nHarryhausen version of Jason and the Argonauts.\n\n\n----- Original Message ----- "
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          "text": "From: \"Adam Thornton\" <adam at io.com>\nTo: \"The Urth Mailing List\" <urth at lists.urth.net>\nSent: Friday, August 18, 2006 2:15 PM\nSubject: (urth) Satyricon and Soldier\nI assume this has been mentioned before, but, uh, everyone's aware of\nhow much the Latro books read like _The Satyricon_--the damaged Latin-\nspeaking hero on a quest throughout the Roman world to appease his\ngod--right?\n\nIt's just that the holes in Latro's story come from the hole in his\nhead, rather than the holes in a text passed down less-than-\nfaithfully for two millennia.\n\nI'm rereading _The Satyricon_ as research for a project I'm working\non, and I was struck by how familiar a lot of it felt.\n\nAdam\n_______________________________________________"
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      "from": {
        "name": "Jonathon McKitrick",
        "address": "jcm at freebsd-uk.eu.org"
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      "date": "2006-08-18T23:16:21+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Satyricon and Soldier",
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          "text": "On Fri, Aug 18, 2006 at 02:41:46PM -0700, Russell Wodell wrote:\n: Hmmm...that begs that question whether Wolfe ever saw Federico Fellini's \n: remarkable 1969 film version of Sayricon, in which the bold leaps across the \n: narrative gaps are memorably disorienting, if you will excuse the pun. There \n: might just possibly be a structural influence. ... even though there are \n: many centuries between pre-classic Greece and Petronius.\n: \n: Or could that have inspired the future-influencing-the-past structure of \n: Book of the New Sun? (Just kidding.)\n: \n: Actually, the film that springs to mind re: Latro would be the classic Ray \n: Harryhausen version of Jason and the Argonauts.\n\nI was thinking of Doc Brown and Marty McFly, myself.\n\n\nJonathon McKitrick"
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