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  "thread": {
    "id": 4698,
    "subject": "What meaning does the family tree lend to the story itself?",
    "messages": 3,
    "voices": 3,
    "first": "2006-08-25T20:57:57+00:00",
    "last": "2006-08-27T10:39:56+00:00"
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  "messages": [
    {
      "message_id": "<20060825205757.GH79740@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Jonathon McKitrick",
        "address": "jcm at freebsd-uk.eu.org"
      },
      "date": "2006-08-25T20:57:57+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) What meaning does the family tree lend to the story itself?",
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          "text": "I'm still at the point of figuring out the time traveling, the multiple Sev's\nand so on, but once you understand that Sev becomes the \"New Sun\" and saves\nUrth, what additional meaning is there to be extracted by understanding his\nentire family tree?  And since that really cannot be done, apparently, without\nconfirmation from Mr. Wolfe himself, how can the true meaning of an\ninscrutable family tree ever be known?\n\nJonathon McKitrick"
        },
        {
          "kind": "sig",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "My other computer is your Windows box."
        }
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    },
    {
      "message_id": "<44F0B3E1.8020808@io.com>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Jeff Wilson",
        "address": "jwilson at io.com"
      },
      "date": "2006-08-26T20:49:37+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) What meaning does the family tree lend to the story\n\titself?",
      "in_reply_to": "<20060825205757.GH79740@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org>",
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          "text": "Jonathon McKitrick wrote:\nI'm still at the point of figuring out the time traveling, the multiple Sev's\nand so on, but once you understand that Sev becomes the \"New Sun\" and saves\nUrth, what additional meaning is there to be extracted by understanding his\nentire family tree?  And since that really cannot be done, apparently, without\nconfirmation from Mr. Wolfe himself, how can the true meaning of an\ninscrutable family tree ever be known?"
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        {
          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "It may not be inscrutable; hopefully, some new meaning emerges that is \nobvious in retrospect if X and Y are related by Z, but wouldn't otherwise."
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    {
      "message_id": "<BAY103-F317687565983B6CCCC8CE0883B0@phx.gbl>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Bob Miller",
        "address": "bob_bageera at hotmail.com"
      },
      "date": "2006-08-27T10:39:56+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) What meaning does the family tree lend to the story\n\titself?",
      "in_reply_to": "<20060825205757.GH79740@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org>",
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          "text": "While we all have fun niggling at the detailsand trying to read the mind of \nsomeone we, frequently, have not met, it often appears that part of the \nmeaning IS in its being inscrutable, in the fact that this \"fogginess\"?, \nlack of clarity in and of themselves give us points of reference on the \n\"map\" of the author's meaningful design.  Possibly, because similar \nissues--the exact date of death, exact spelling of grandfather's name, which \ncounty born in--have embroiled many academics for thousands of pages and \ntheir readers for thousands of doses of dramamine.\n\n\nI'm still at the point of figuring out the time traveling, the multiple \nSev's\nand so on, but once you understand that Sev becomes the \"New Sun\" and saves\nUrth, what additional meaning is there to be extracted by understanding his\nentire family tree?  And since that really cannot be done, apparently, \nwithout\nconfirmation from Mr. Wolfe himself, how can the true meaning of an\ninscrutable family tree ever be known?\n\nJonathon McKitrick"
        },
        {
          "kind": "sig",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "My other computer is your Windows box."
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