# 'Pian *The Urth list — 1 messages, 1 voices, 28 Aug 2006* > Exported from an unofficial mirror of a public mailing list. Copyright > in each message remains with the person who wrote it. > Email addresses are obscured as `user at host`, the form the original > archive published. This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than > retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact. --- ### Ranjit Bhatnagar *28 Aug 2006, 19:05* I worry that I've missed some obvious counter-argument, but it seems to me that Appian and Paeon are one and the same. Roy quoted: > [...] "Paeon, who > trained me, who was honey-steward fifty years gone by. I knew what he was in > truth, for I had met him before." [...] (CITADEL, chapter XXV) "I knew what he was" -- he was the Autarch, playing honey-steward as Severian's predecessor played at whoremaster. Tony: > And finally we have the mysterious Paeon, whom Roy also mentions. You > reason that the penultimate Autarch may have been 5-12 years old when > Paeon trained him, 50 years ago, and I agree. But since we know Appian > had been on the throne *at least* 12 years by then, doesn't that support > my theory rather than yours? ... or MY theory :) "Paeon" sounds like "Appian." It could be his honey-stewarding nickname, or perhaps even Severian's mishearing of the Old Autarch's words. - ranjit ---