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  "thread": {
    "id": 471,
    "subject": "Typhon and Timelines",
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    "first": "1998-04-03T12:20:27+00:00",
    "last": "1998-04-03T12:20:27+00:00"
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      "message_id": "<urth-v0009-0708@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Dan'l Danehy Oakes",
        "address": "ddanehyo at us.oracle.com"
      },
      "date": "1998-04-03T12:20:27+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Typhon and Timelines",
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          "text": "Hi,\n\nNot quite a lurker; I signed up recently and have been frantically\ntrying to catch up with the digests.  I'm nearly there, now, and \nhave a few things I'd like to toss out.  Specifically, two quotes\nfrom \"Lake of the Long Sun.\"  I apologize if I err in sending them\nto this list, but the \"Whorl\" list seems to have subsided.  (I saw\nsomething in the archives about these lists being replaced by a\n\"Wolfe\" list and a \"Lupine\" list; is this actually happening?)\n\n... anyway, these quotes seem to me relevant to tBotNS and the\noverarching structure, so I'll toss them in here.\n\nFirst, from p.116 h/c, a quote from the Kypris-possessed Chennile\nthat tells us something about how Typhon came to power:\n\n   \"...Patterns of beats.  Yes, yes, no, no, no, yes, yes.\n    There's this thing behind everybody's eyes. I don't\n    understand everything myself. The mechanical woman?\n    Marble? Somebody too clever learned he could do it to\n    them. Change programs in little ways. People made\n    machines.  Just to do that. So that people like Maytera\n    Marble would work for them instead of for the State.\n    Steal for them. He ... Pas, you call him. He had people\n    study it. And they found out that you could do something\n    like it with people. It was harder. The frequency was\n    much higher. But you could, and so we do. That was how\n    it all began. Silk. Through the terminals, through \n    their eyes.\"\n\nThe second, from P.276, for those interested in timelines,\nis the specific quote about Maytera's slipped decimal:\n\n   \"What had she told dear Patera Silk the other day?\n    Three centuries? Three hundred years? The decimal\n    had slipped, must certainly have slipped to the\n    left.\"\n\nMeaning that Maytera thinks it's more likely three thousand.\nBut note that Lemur, in the sub, seems to think it's been\nthree hundred (\"With the passing of three hundred years,\nPas, Echidna, Tartaros, Scylla, and the rest have faded \nalmost to invisibility,\" p.297 h/c)\n\nOne other note, on something I haven't seen mentioned in \nthe archives.  I'd assumed that \"Patera\" and \"Maytera\" \nwere variants on \"Father\" and \"Mother.\"  But I noticed\nin a big dictionary (small ones don't have it) that\n\"patera\" is an old Latin word for a dish used in rites\nof sacrifice.\n\nPatera Silk is...a vessel.\n\n***\n\nVironese name?  Call me\n\n--Roach\n\n--------------------------------------------------------------------\n|--Dan'l Danehy-Oakes            | Can you believe that the eagle  |\n|  Staff Curriculum Developer    |    will fly with the dove?      |\n|  Oracle World-Wide Education   | Can you believe in the rose     |\n|  email: ddanehyo at us.oracle.com |    in the raised fisted glove?  |\n|  phone: 650-506-0793           |        -- John Michael Talbot   |\n--------------------------------------------------------------------"
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