# Catherine/Katharine *The Urth list — 1 messages, 1 voices, 29 Oct 2006* > Exported from an unofficial mirror of a public mailing list. Copyright > in each message remains with the person who wrote it. > Email addresses are obscured as `user at host`, the form the original > archive published. This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than > retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact. --- ### thalassocrat at nym.hush.com *29 Oct 2006, 09:12* Wikipedia reckons that "Katharine" comes from a Latin mangling of the original Greek, which is closer to "Catherine". Of course this is consistent with Ouen's belief that the latter is an "old- fashioned" kind of name. I guess there's some support there for an annoying time-travel solution to the puzzle. For a *really* annoying time-travel solution, Catherine should turn out to be the daughter of the "original" Sev, born back in time somewhere after he was returned from his trial, and transported forward to give birth to her father. Blah. Wikipedia also gives a hesitant derivation of the Greek form of Catherine from "Hekate", as well as another from a word meaning "torture". I guess the first could make you wonder whether Catherine was an escapee from the witches. Seeing the witches as an "order of monials" is a stretch, but maybe not too much of a stretch. ---