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  "thread": {
    "id": 4823,
    "subject": "Severian Of The Guild (Abandoned): The Book Of The New Sun",
    "messages": 5,
    "voices": 5,
    "first": "2007-04-27T05:00:53+00:00",
    "last": "2007-05-13T10:44:38+00:00"
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  "messages": [
    {
      "message_id": "<1076.67.142.130.16.1177650053.squirrel@brunians.org>",
      "from": {
        "name": "brunians at brunians.org",
        "address": "brunians at brunians.org"
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      "date": "2007-04-27T05:00:53+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Severian Of The Guild (Abandoned): The Book Of The New Sun",
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          "text": "I see this listed for publication in October and November of 2007. Does\nanyone have any details?\n\n\n\n."
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    {
      "message_id": "<111874.16079.qm@web32409.mail.mud.yahoo.com>",
      "from": {
        "name": "don doggett",
        "address": "kingwukong at yahoo.com"
      },
      "date": "2007-04-27T05:27:39+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Severian Of The Guild (Abandoned): The Book Of The New\n\tSun",
      "in_reply_to": "<1076.67.142.130.16.1177650053.squirrel@brunians.org>",
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          "text": "--- brunians at brunians.org wrote:\nI see this listed for publication in October and\nNovember of 2007. Does\nanyone have any details?"
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          "text": "from \nhttp://www.sffworld.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-15809-p-2.html\n:\n\nquote\n\nJanuary 20th, 2007, 06:25 AM\nBTW Gollancz, who recently did a one-volume edition in\nhardcover and paperback of the two Wizardknight books,\nwill release a one-volume Book of the New Sun in\nOctober. \n \n Check this:\n \n\nhttp://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0575081295/ref=nosim/book11-21\n \n Who on urth came up with the brilliant idea of naming\nit \"Severian of the Guild\"? That's not unnecessary and\nconfusing at all.\n\nend quote\n\nlooks like no big deal, and I think that (abandoned)\nsimply means they decided not to go with that title.\nSometimes titles remain fluid right up to printing.\nSorry to give you coal for Christmas.\n\nDon\n\nThe Evangelists: a Lesser Apocrypha                                                                        http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=178109961"
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      "message_id": "<44fb53d10705122305s677f0eecm2afceb9320e3d17b@mail.gmail.com>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Matthew Keeley",
        "address": "matthew.keeley.1 at gmail.com"
      },
      "date": "2007-05-13T06:05:34+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Severian Of The Guild (Abandoned): The Book Of The New\n\tSun",
      "in_reply_to": "<111874.16079.qm@web32409.mail.mud.yahoo.com>",
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          "text": "Amazon UK now has some more information on Severian of the Guild, which does\nseem to be a reprinting of the New Sun books. Amazon says it comes out\nOctober 18 in the UK and that it runs to 1008 pages. It's a paperback\napparently. They also have the cover art up, though it's far from my\nfavorite New Sun art. Still, I've wanted a one-volume edition of the BotNS\nfor a while, so I may have to pick this one up while studying in Ireland\nthis fall.\n\n-Matt"
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          "text": "On 4/27/07, don doggett <kingwukong at yahoo.com> wrote:\n\n\n--- brunians at brunians.org wrote:"
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          "text": "I see this listed for publication in October and\nNovember of 2007. Does\nanyone have any details?"
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          "text": "from\nhttp://www.sffworld.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-15809-p-2.html\n:\n\nquote\n\nJanuary 20th, 2007, 06:25 AM\nBTW Gollancz, who recently did a one-volume edition in\nhardcover and paperback of the two Wizardknight books,\nwill release a one-volume Book of the New Sun in\nOctober.\n\nCheck this:\n\n\nhttp://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0575081295/ref=nosim/book11-21\n\nWho on urth came up with the brilliant idea of naming\nit \"Severian of the Guild\"? That's not unnecessary and\nconfusing at all.\n\nend quote\n\nlooks like no big deal, and I think that (abandoned)\nsimply means they decided not to go with that title.\nSometimes titles remain fluid right up to printing.\nSorry to give you coal for Christmas.\n\nDon\n\nThe Evangelists: a Lesser\nApocrypha\nhttp://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=178109961\n\n__________________________________________________\nDo You Yahoo!?\nTired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around\nhttp://mail.yahoo.com\n_______________________________________________"
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      "from": {
        "name": "JBarach at aol.com",
        "address": "jbarach at aol.com"
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      "date": "2007-05-13T06:11:59+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Severian Of The Guild (Abandoned): The Book Of The New\n\tSun",
      "in_reply_to": "<44fb53d10705122305s677f0eecm2afceb9320e3d17b@mail.gmail.com>",
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          "text": " \nIn a message dated 5/12/2007 11:05:58 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  \nmatthew.keeley.1 at gmail.com writes:\n\nAmazon  says it comes out October 18 in the UK and that it runs to 1008 \npages. It's a  paperback apparently. \n\n\nWhat in the world is the point of a paperback that large?  The  spine will \nbreak or at least be badly stretched by the time you're halfway  through.  What \nwe need is a one or two volume hardback with sewn sheets,  something that will \nlast for a long, long time.\n \nJohn\n... who has been frustrated by the fact that Jeff \nSmith's Bone is printed in one volume, but only\nin one huge paperback."
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    {
      "message_id": "<4646EC16.7040007@gmail.com>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Jesper Svedberg",
        "address": "jsvedberg at gmail.com"
      },
      "date": "2007-05-13T10:44:38+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Severian Of The Guild (Abandoned): The Book Of The New\n Sun",
      "in_reply_to": "<bfc.1724e7f0.3378062f@aol.com>",
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          "text": "JBarach at aol.com skrev:"
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          "text": "In a message dated 5/12/2007 11:05:58 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, \nmatthew.keeley.1 at gmail.com writes:\n\n    Amazon says it comes out October 18 in the UK and that it runs to\n    1008 pages. It's a paperback apparently. \n\nWhat in the world is the point of a paperback that large?  The spine \nwill break or at least be badly stretched by the time you're halfway \nthrough.  What we need is a one or two volume hardback with sewn sheets, \nsomething that will last for a long, long time."
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          "text": "There will be a hardcover too. UK publisher often publish hardcovers and \ntrade paperbacks at the same time, where the paperbacks seem to be aimed \nfor the international markets.\n\nLets just hope that the \"Abandonded\" modifier means that they have \ndecided to change the name. Calling this book \"Severian of the Guild\" is \nlike collecting \"The Lord of the Rings\" in one volume and calling it \n\"Frodo of the Shire\".\n\n(I wonder if this means that \"The Wizard Knight\" have sold well in the \nUK. I don't think I've seen more than one UK review of tWK and no real \nbuzz, so I got the impression that it more or less sunk like a stone.)\n\n\n   // Jesper"
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