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  "thread": {
    "id": 4830,
    "subject": "CASTLEVIEW and TWK",
    "messages": 2,
    "voices": 2,
    "first": "2007-05-18T06:08:57+00:00",
    "last": "2007-05-18T18:46:24+00:00"
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      "message_id": "<000c01c79913$091be580$8dca5a42@rclackey.stic.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Roy C. Lackey",
        "address": "rclackey at stic.net"
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      "date": "2007-05-18T06:08:57+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) CASTLEVIEW and TWK",
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          "text": "My recent reading of CASTLEVIEW forced me to appreciate for the first time\njust how many points of correspondence there are between it and TWK. It's\nhard to imagine that the former didn't have some influence on the writing of\nthe latter, and I wonder if one book can be used to inform the understanding\nof the other. Of course, I don't have the answer, but maybe it would help to\npoint out some similarities.\n\nIn both books we have a young Arthurian figure whose name isn't revealed\nuntil the end and who hails from modern America. There is a certain\ndisconnect from an older, absent brother. We have Odin and Sleipnir, the\nWild Hunt and mention of the Green Man. We have fairies and a fairy world\nthat can be blundered into, and a young, regal, immortal fairy woman of\nuncertain loyalties. We have a talking cat. A big dog. Blood sucking\nfemales. An ambulance on a highway. Ghosts. Giants. A castle in the sky. The\nmingling of Norse and Arthurian material.\n\nThe older book takes place mostly on the American side of the indistinct\nboundary with Faerie, the newer on the other side. For whatever that's all\nworth.\n\n-Roy"
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    {
      "message_id": "<20070518184624.42231.qmail@web36914.mail.mud.yahoo.com>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Craig Brewer",
        "address": "cnbrewer at yahoo.com"
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      "date": "2007-05-18T18:46:24+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) CASTLEVIEW and TWK",
      "in_reply_to": "<000c01c79913$091be580$8dca5a42@rclackey.stic.net>",
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          "text": "You beat me to my next post (which I was saving until\nI finished _Wizard_ again).\n\nI haven't yet decided how strong the connection\nbetween the books might actually be. At the very\nleast, we're seeing something about how Wolfe deals\nwith Arthuriana/Faerie/Norse-ness in fundamental ways.\nBut if nothing else, the description of the castles is\nmore than similar and, I think, more than a casual\nreworking of an older motif.\n\nAnd, of course, I want to know if anyone in Castleview\nwas named Ormsby. Or Ben.\n\n--Craig"
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          "text": "--- \"Roy C. Lackey\" <rclackey at stic.net> wrote:\nMy recent reading of CASTLEVIEW forced me to\nappreciate for the first time\njust how many points of correspondence there are\nbetween it and TWK. It's\nhard to imagine that the former didn't have some\ninfluence on the writing of\nthe latter, and I wonder if one book can be used to\ninform the understanding\nof the other. Of course, I don't have the answer,\nbut maybe it would help to\npoint out some similarities.\n\nIn both books we have a young Arthurian figure whose\nname isn't revealed\nuntil the end and who hails from modern America.\nThere is a certain\ndisconnect from an older, absent brother. We have\nOdin and Sleipnir, the\nWild Hunt and mention of the Green Man. We have\nfairies and a fairy world\nthat can be blundered into, and a young, regal,\nimmortal fairy woman of\nuncertain loyalties. We have a talking cat. A big\ndog. Blood sucking\nfemales. An ambulance on a highway. Ghosts. Giants.\nA castle in the sky. The\nmingling of Norse and Arthurian material.\n\nThe older book takes place mostly on the American\nside of the indistinct\nboundary with Faerie, the newer on the other side.\nFor whatever that's all\nworth.\n\n-Roy\n\n_______________________________________________"
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