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  "thread": {
    "id": 4834,
    "subject": "Vance and Shea",
    "messages": 2,
    "voices": 2,
    "first": "2007-06-05T01:49:14+00:00",
    "last": "2007-06-05T02:07:38+00:00"
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    {
      "message_id": "<450051F1-7683-4CA0-9712-FF1161CC15C6@videotron.ca>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Yves Meynard",
        "address": "meynard at videotron.ca"
      },
      "date": "2007-06-05T01:49:14+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Vance and Shea",
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          "text": "Aaron writes:"
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          "text": "Also, the other day, I read about the author Michael Shea and how he\nwrote a sequel to The Eyes of the Overworld.  He then went on to  \nwrite a few\nbooks about a character named Nifft the Lean who is said to be  \nCugel-esque.\nI am intrigued and will probably try to locate a copy of this Nifft  \nthe\nLean.  Hopefully it will be worthwhile.  Any of you guys read  \nMichael Shea?"
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          "text": "Shea's a very interesting writer. The books about Nifft are  \nimpressive pieces of baroque fantasy, and the sequel to _The Eyes of  \nthe Overworld_ is quite amusing. It starts off as a very convincing  \npastiche, but then Shea's own writerly nature comes seeping through  \nthe cracks and the book becomes very Nifft-like at the end -- not  \nthat I'm complaining.\n\nI reread Vance pretty regularly. He was one of my first great  \nliterary loves, and the only one who's kept all his glamour as I've  \naged. Amusing to think the influence he's had on Wolfe when you  \nconsider Vance's cynical take on religion.\n\nYves Meynard"
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      "message_id": "<ecbb2eb0706041907k165b1095j536bb0bbd40ebe6d@mail.gmail.com>",
      "from": {
        "name": "aaron",
        "address": "aaronsingleton at gmail.com"
      },
      "date": "2007-06-05T02:07:38+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Vance and Shea",
      "in_reply_to": "<450051F1-7683-4CA0-9712-FF1161CC15C6@videotron.ca>",
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          "text": "Perhaps Wolfe was influenced by Vance before he converted to Catholicism.\nIf I recall correctly, Wolfe said in Castle of the Otter that he read The\nDying Earth upon its release in 1950, before he married and converted, I\nbelieve.  If Wolfe only discovered Vance today, I wonder what his opinion\nwould be?\n     I agree with you about Vance's glamour never fading.  His work is truly\ntimeless.  I hope he is re-discovered in the future and that his work is\nshown the appreciation and respect it deserves.\n     I am glad to hear that you think Shea to be a worthwhile read.  I will\ncertainly order the first Nifft book and see how it goes.  I might even go\nto the Baen site right now and order the ebook version of the Complete\nNifft.  Hmm.  It is tempting.  Too bad my checking acct. balance is\nnot presently sufficient to cover the paltry four dollars and ninety-nine\ncents they are asking for the ebook.  I shall await payday anxiously! =)"
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          "text": "On 6/4/07, Yves Meynard <meynard at videotron.ca> wrote:\n\nAaron writes:"
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          "text": "Also, the other day, I read about the author Michael Shea and how he\nwrote a sequel to The Eyes of the Overworld.  He then went on to\nwrite a few\nbooks about a character named Nifft the Lean who is said to be\nCugel-esque.\nI am intrigued and will probably try to locate a copy of this Nifft\nthe\nLean.  Hopefully it will be worthwhile.  Any of you guys read\nMichael Shea?"
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          "text": "Shea's a very interesting writer. The books about Nifft are\nimpressive pieces of baroque fantasy, and the sequel to _The Eyes of\nthe Overworld_ is quite amusing. It starts off as a very convincing\npastiche, but then Shea's own writerly nature comes seeping through\nthe cracks and the book becomes very Nifft-like at the end -- not\nthat I'm complaining.\n\nI reread Vance pretty regularly. He was one of my first great\nliterary loves, and the only one who's kept all his glamour as I've\naged. Amusing to think the influence he's had on Wolfe when you\nconsider Vance's cynical take on religion.\n\nYves Meynard\n\n\n_______________________________________________"
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