{ "export": { "source": "https://urth.darkrealm.vip/thread/urth/4842", "note": "Exported from an unofficial mirror of a public mailing list. Copyright in each message remains with the person who wrote it. Email addresses are obscured as `user at host`, the form the original archive published. This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact.", "addresses": "obscured as 'user at host'" }, "archive": "urth", "thread": { "id": 4842, "subject": "Good advice from Alan Moore", "messages": 4, "voices": 4, "first": "2007-06-07T11:38:32+00:00", "last": "2007-06-08T07:27:24+00:00" }, "messages": [ { "message_id": "<002f01c7a8f8$609e2080$e230484a@VALUED664B84C7>", "from": { "name": "Joe Smulkstis", "address": "jismulkstis at nyc.rr.com" }, "date": "2007-06-07T11:38:32+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Good advice from Alan Moore", "in_reply_to": null, "reply_link": null, "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Daniel quoted Alan Moore re \"Watchmen\":\n\n\"After several months of this, Moore said, in another interview,\nthat, while everything in the comic meant something, not\neverything meant *much*.\"\n\nI love this discussion group but I think there are times when everyone \nshould\ntake those words to heart.\n\nDaniel, I noticed the (slightly wrong) quote from Zappa's \"Evelyn, a \nModified Dog\".\nI'm a little surprised that a Catholic (which I was raised as, I'm now \nagnostic)\nwould be a Zappa fan, but as a feminist and a Zappa fan I guess I shouldn't \nbe.\n\nI'm curious as to whether Wolfe's audience is more religious in general\nthan your average SF reader.\n\nMuskrat" } ] }, { "message_id": "<1f7617370706071143k59d80312r49c0948218a8db11@mail.gmail.com>", "from": { "name": "Dan'l Danehy-Oakes", "address": "danldo at gmail.com" }, "date": "2007-06-07T18:43:56+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Good advice from Alan Moore", "in_reply_to": "<002f01c7a8f8$609e2080$e230484a@VALUED664B84C7>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On 6/7/07, Joe Smulkstis wrote:\nDaniel," }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "It's Dan'l. Honest." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "I noticed the (slightly wrong) quote from Zappa's \"Evelyn, a Modified Dog\"." }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "? How did I blow it? At any rate, a favorite song from a favorite album." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "I'm a little surprised that a Catholic (which I was raised as, I'm now agnostic)\nwould be a Zappa fan, but as a feminist and a Zappa fan I guess I shouldn't\nbe." }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Have been since first hearing \"Billy the Mountain\" in my freshman year of\ncollitch. And I'm a RC, a Zappa fan -- a fan of \"progressive\" music in general\n-- *and* as much of a \"feminist\" as a man can reasonably be. (I worry about\nappropriating the term, blablablah.) Not to mention an existentialist,\na humanist,\na Taoist, and a skeptic. I am large (or at least overweight); I\ncontain multitudes." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "I'm curious as to whether Wolfe's audience is more religious in general\nthan your average SF reader." }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Not in my experience... I think that religious SF readers may be slightly more\nattracted to Wolfe, but not by a huge margin; and certainly quite a few of\nthe listmembers here (which I take as about as paradigmatic a grouping of\nLupines as you'll get) are non-religious." }, { "kind": "sig", "depth": 0, "text": "Dan'l Danehy-Oakes, writer, trainer, bon vivant\n-----\nhttp://www.livejournal.com/users/sturgeonslawyer\nhttp://www.danehyoakes.com\nSoon, where Toon Town once stood will be a string of gas stations,\ninexpensive motels, restaurants that serve rapidly prepared food. Tire\nsalons, automobile dealerships and wonderful, wonderful billboards\nreaching as far as the eye can see. My God, it'll be beautiful." } ] }, { "message_id": "<200706071816.12072.ddjones@riddlemaster.org>", "from": { "name": "Daniel D Jones", "address": "ddjones at riddlemaster.org" }, "date": "2007-06-07T22:16:11+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Good advice from Alan Moore", "in_reply_to": "<002f01c7a8f8$609e2080$e230484a@VALUED664B84C7>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On Thursday 07 June 2007 07:38, Joe Smulkstis wrote:\nDaniel quoted Alan Moore re \"Watchmen\":\n\n\"After several months of this, Moore said, in another interview,\nthat, while everything in the comic meant something, not\neverything meant *much*.\"\n\nI love this discussion group but I think there are times when everyone\nshould\ntake those words to heart." }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "I've made the same point a couple of times in the past. A big part of \ninterpreting Wolfe is knowing when to stop." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "Daniel, I noticed the (slightly wrong) quote from Zappa's \"Evelyn, a\nModified Dog\".\nI'm a little surprised that a Catholic (which I was raised as, I'm now\nagnostic)\nwould be a Zappa fan, but as a feminist and a Zappa fan I guess I shouldn't\nbe." }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "I'm neither feminist nor misogynist (I respond to and judge people based on \ntheir actions, not their sex, and vehemently uphold equal treatment under the \nlaw, but I think radical feminist cross the border into misandry, or perhaps \nsimply misanthropy.) I'm also a huge Zappa fan." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "I'm curious as to whether Wolfe's audience is more religious in general\nthan your average SF reader." }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "But certainly not religious. I put the probability of the existence of God as \nslightly behind the Easter bunny but slightly ahead of Santa Claus. (There's \njust something about visiting all those houses in ONE night that really \nraises my skeptical hackles. I have _serious_ doubts about Ol' Saint Nick.)" } ] }, { "message_id": "<001f01c7a99e$79044b80$a0c85a42@rclackey.stic.net>", "from": { "name": "Roy C. Lackey", "address": "rclackey at stic.net" }, "date": "2007-06-08T07:27:24+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Good advice from Alan Moore", "in_reply_to": "<200706071816.12072.ddjones@riddlemaster.org>", "reply_link": "subject", "blocks": [ { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "Daniel D Jones wrote:\nBut certainly not religious. I put the probability of the existence of God\nas\nslightly behind the Easter bunny but slightly ahead of Santa Claus." }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "(There's" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "just something about visiting all those houses in ONE night that really\nraises my skeptical hackles. I have _serious_ doubts about Ol' Saint\nNick.)" }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Funny, that parenthetical part was part of an argument I made here years ago\nconcerning who switched the Christmas gifts at Den's maternal grandfather's\nhouse. There's no way Santa had time to make two trips to the same house\nthat night.\n\n-Roy" } ] } ] }