{ "export": { "source": "https://urth.darkrealm.vip/thread/urth/4848", "note": "Exported from an unofficial mirror of a public mailing list. Copyright in each message remains with the person who wrote it. Email addresses are obscured as `user at host`, the form the original archive published. This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact.", "addresses": "obscured as 'user at host'" }, "archive": "urth", "thread": { "id": 4848, "subject": "Book of the New Sun Audiobooks?", "messages": 13, "voices": 9, "first": "2007-06-14T18:22:52+00:00", "last": "2007-06-15T00:20:18+00:00" }, "messages": [ { "message_id": "<1181845372.23801.1195203047@webmail.messagingengine.com>", "from": { "name": "Rex Lycanthrosaurus", "address": "lycanthrosaurus at fastmail.fm" }, "date": "2007-06-14T18:22:52+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Book of the New Sun Audiobooks?", "in_reply_to": null, "reply_link": null, "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "http://cgi.ebay.com/Gene-Wolfe-Urth-Book-Of-The-New-Sun-1-5-Audiobooks-Unab_W0QQitemZ270131444339QQihZ017QQcategoryZ29792QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem\n\nAnybody ever heard these or know who the reader is? I can think of no\nbetter way to palliate the daily commute, but can find absolutely no\ninformation anywhere about the product. I also find it hard to believe\nyou could record the entire unabridged series on 2 CDs, even with mp3\nencoding. " }, { "kind": "sig", "depth": 0, "text": " Rex Lycanthrosaurus\n lycanthrosaurus at fastmail.fm\n\n-- \nhttp://www.fastmail.fm - Email service worth paying for. Try it for free" } ] }, { "message_id": "<447700.5383.qm@web63908.mail.re1.yahoo.com>", "from": { "name": "Recursive Loop", "address": "recursive_loop at yahoo.com" }, "date": "2007-06-14T18:37:05+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Book of the New Sun Audiobooks?", "in_reply_to": "<1181845372.23801.1195203047@webmail.messagingengine.com>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Are these even legit? Are they \"digitized\" from earlier audio books (tapes)? I don't see any such\ncritter at Amazon or B&N, so I wonder how he/she is supplying them!\n\nFPK3\n\n\n\n " } ] }, { "message_id": "<472907.73817.qm@web32404.mail.mud.yahoo.com>", "from": { "name": "don doggett", "address": "kingwukong at yahoo.com" }, "date": "2007-06-14T21:01:46+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Book of the New Sun Audiobooks?", "in_reply_to": "<447700.5383.qm@web63908.mail.re1.yahoo.com>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "--- Recursive Loop wrote:\nAre these even legit? Are they \"digitized\" from\nearlier audio books (tapes)? I don't see any such\ncritter at Amazon or B&N, so I wonder how he/she is\nsupplying them!" }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Well, rather than wondering, I emailed her asking who\nreads them and who originally published them. So\nhopefully I'll hear back. I'll let you know when and\nif I do.\n\nDon\n\nThe Evangelists: a Lesser Apocrypha http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=178109961\n\n\n " } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "aaron", "address": "aaronsingleton at gmail.com" }, "date": "2007-06-14T21:08:50+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Book of the New Sun Audiobooks?", "in_reply_to": "<472907.73817.qm@web32404.mail.mud.yahoo.com>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "I also just emailed the person to ask about the CDs. And yes, it is\npossible that they would fit on 2 CDs. You see, MP3's are 1/10th the size\nof regular WAV. files found on regular music CD's. In other words, a\nregular CD can hold up to 800 minutes of MP3 audio while with WAV's you only\nget 80 mins. At any rate, we will soon see if they are legit, although I am\nvery doubtful.\n\nAaron Singleton" } ] }, { "message_id": "<1181856849.28856.1195235621@webmail.messagingengine.com>", "from": { "name": "Rex Lycanthrosaurus", "address": "lycanthrosaurus at fastmail.fm" }, "date": "2007-06-14T21:34:09+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Book of the New Sun Audiobooks?", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 17:08:50 -0400, \"aaron\" \nsaid:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "I also just emailed the person to ask about the CDs. And yes, it is\npossible that they would fit on 2 CDs. You see, MP3's are 1/10th the\nsize\nof regular WAV. files found on regular music CD's. In other words, a\nregular CD can hold up to 800 minutes of MP3 audio while with WAV's you\nonly\nget 80 mins. " }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "According to the seller's information there are 50 hours of audio on the\ntwo disks. 50 X 60 = 3000 minutes -- not 1600. Curiouser and curiouser." }, { "kind": "sig", "depth": 0, "text": " Rex Lycanthrosaurus\n lycanthrosaurus at fastmail.fm\n\n-- \nhttp://www.fastmail.fm - The way an email service should be" } ] }, { "message_id": "<10706142147.AA06595@slack.com>", "from": { "name": "David DiGiacomo", "address": "david at slack.com" }, "date": "2007-06-14T21:47:13+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Book of the New Sun Audiobooks?", "in_reply_to": "<1181856849.28856.1195235621@webmail.messagingengine.com>", "reply_link": "subject", "blocks": [ { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "You see, MP3's are 1/10th the\nsize of regular WAV. files found on regular music CD's. In other words, a\nregular CD can hold up to 800 minutes of MP3 audio while with WAV's you\nonly get 80 mins. " }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Audio CDs hold uncompressed audio, but they don't have WAV files on them\n(or any files)." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "According to the seller's information there are 50 hours of audio on the\ntwo disks. 50 X 60 = 3000 minutes -- not 1600. Curiouser and curiouser." }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Since it's not music, it can be compressed to 32Kbps with reasonable\nfidelity." } ] }, { "message_id": "<19E54F80-CB5D-4594-8193-137CAE19BBC2@gmail.com>", "from": { "name": "Matthew King", "address": "automatthew at gmail.com" }, "date": "2007-06-14T21:59:56+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Book of the New Sun Audiobooks?", "in_reply_to": "<1181856849.28856.1195235621@webmail.messagingengine.com>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On Jun 14, 2007, at 4:34 PM, Rex Lycanthrosaurus wrote:\nAccording to the seller's information there are 50 hours of audio \non the\ntwo disks. 50 X 60 = 3000 minutes -- not 1600. Curiouser and \ncuriouser." }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "mp3 compression is very tunable, and you can get especially low file \nsizes when working with spoken word recordings.\n\nCase in point, I just now finished preparing an mp3 recording of an \nhour long class. The final size was 6 MB.\n\nAt that level of compression, you can get over 100 hours on a CD.\n\nMatthew" } ] }, { "message_id": "<931576.36291.qm@web32406.mail.mud.yahoo.com>", "from": { "name": "don doggett", "address": "kingwukong at yahoo.com" }, "date": "2007-06-14T23:24:00+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Book of the New Sun Audiobooks?", "in_reply_to": "<1181856849.28856.1195235621@webmail.messagingengine.com>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "--- Rex Lycanthrosaurus \nwrote:\nCuriouser and curiouser." }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Indeed. I just checked that listing and it's been\nremoved. I wouldn't hold my breath for any response.\n\nDon\n\nThe Evangelists: a Lesser Apocrypha http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=178109961\n\n\n " } ] }, { "message_id": "<819755.57969.qm@web32407.mail.mud.yahoo.com>", "from": { "name": "don doggett", "address": "kingwukong at yahoo.com" }, "date": "2007-06-14T23:46:12+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Book of the New Sun Audiobooks?", "in_reply_to": "<931576.36291.qm@web32406.mail.mud.yahoo.com>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Here's the link to the seller's other items. Can I get\nan Aaargh, Matey? I wonder if someone is just\nrecording their own audio. Oh, and regarding the\nlisting going down, it had a buy it now option so\nmaybe someone bought it. If it's someone on this list\nyou should hang your head in shame. Uncool, especially\nafter all the discussion about how Wolfe isn't as big\na seller as he should be. And if it's not someone on\nthis list then I have no one to apologize to, except\nfor everyone who had to endure this rant.\n\nhttp://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZpowlandaQQhtZ-1\n\nDon\n\nThe Evangelists: a Lesser Apocrypha http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=178109961\n\n\n " } ] }, { "message_id": "<2c58e76b0706141658m4f0761fbjd0445006cae95b3d@mail.gmail.com>", "from": { "name": "Tim Bryant", "address": "timothyjbryant at gmail.com" }, "date": "2007-06-14T23:58:30+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Book of the New Sun Audiobooks?", "in_reply_to": "<819755.57969.qm@web32407.mail.mud.yahoo.com>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Hello. I've been a lurking member of the list for a few months now.\nThough not a very auspicious topic for a first post, I wanted to let\nyou know that I reported the Wolfe audiobooks listing to eBay. That\nmay be why the listing disappeared. If it is a case of copyright\ninfringement, as I suspect it is, then the listing should be gone for\ngood. If not, it will be back up after eBay investigates. Based on the\nseller's past sales, it looks like \"powlanda\" is either creating or\nbuying mp3 files of science fiction works, then selling them multiple\ntimes at almost 100% profit.\n\nIf anyone feels similarly suspicious, as well as protective of the\nother authors' copyrighted works, you could report the other listed\nitems, which have not been removed.\n\nRegards,\nTim" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On 6/14/07, don doggett wrote:\n\nHere's the link to the seller's other items. Can I get\nan Aaargh, Matey? I wonder if someone is just\nrecording their own audio. Oh, and regarding the\nlisting going down, it had a buy it now option so\nmaybe someone bought it. If it's someone on this list\nyou should hang your head in shame. Uncool, especially\nafter all the discussion about how Wolfe isn't as big\na seller as he should be. And if it's not someone on\nthis list then I have no one to apologize to, except\nfor everyone who had to endure this rant.\n\nhttp://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZpowlandaQQhtZ-1\n\nDon\n\nThe Evangelists: a Lesser Apocrypha http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=178109961\n\n\n\n____________________________________________________________________________________\nYahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search\nthat gives answers, not web links.\nhttp://mobile.yahoo.com/mobileweb/onesearch?refer=1ONXIC\n_______________________________________________" } ] }, { "message_id": "<439521.73931.qm@web32413.mail.mud.yahoo.com>", "from": { "name": "don doggett", "address": "kingwukong at yahoo.com" }, "date": "2007-06-15T00:11:54+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Book of the New Sun Audiobooks?", "in_reply_to": "<2c58e76b0706141658m4f0761fbjd0445006cae95b3d@mail.gmail.com>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "--- Tim Bryant wrote:\nHello. I've been a lurking member of the list for a\nfew months now.\nThough not a very auspicious topic for a first post,\nI wanted to let\nyou know that I reported the Wolfe audiobooks\nlisting to eBay. That\nmay be why the listing disappeared." }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Welcome to the list! I think you've given as important\na first post as anyone. Thanks for doing that and for\nreaffirming my faith in this list. Oh, and sorry\neveryone for the rant.\n\nDon\n\nThe Evangelists: a Lesser Apocrypha http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=178109961\n\n\n " } ] }, { "message_id": "<4671D9A1.1070308@majitek.com>", "from": { "name": "Steve Taylor", "address": "steve.taylor at majitek.com" }, "date": "2007-06-15T00:13:21+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Book of the New Sun Audiobooks?", "in_reply_to": "<2c58e76b0706141658m4f0761fbjd0445006cae95b3d@mail.gmail.com>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "As to the origin of the audiobooks, a wild guess:\n\nA friend showed me a CD he'd bought from somewhere or other of readings \nof H.P. Lovecraft which were entirely computer generated - text fed into \na text-to-speech program. The results were just about as awful as you'd \nimagine. I can see this as being a great assistive technology for blind \npeople who are sick of the relatively restricted pool of available \naudiobooks, but I can't imagine anyone listening to it for any other reason.\n\nUnless they're a *really* big Doctor Who fan and just plain like the \nsound of Daleks talking.\n\nAnyway - just guesswork on my part.\n\n\n\n\n Steve" } ] }, { "message_id": "<20070615002025.508161BB84@che.dreamhost.com>", "from": { "name": "hammstu", "address": "hammstu at sbcglobal.net" }, "date": "2007-06-15T00:20:18+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Book of the New Sun Audiobooks?", "in_reply_to": "<439521.73931.qm@web32413.mail.mud.yahoo.com>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "I welcomed the rant, please keep 'em coming!!\nStuart\n\nStuart Hamm\n1235B 7th Ave\nSan francisco, CA 94122\n(415) 786-3624\n\n\n-----Original Message-----\nFrom: urth-bounces at lists.urth.net [mailto:urth-bounces at lists.urth.net] On\nBehalf Of don doggett\nSent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 5:12 PM\nTo: The Urth Mailing List\nSubject: Re: (urth) Book of the New Sun Audiobooks?" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "--- Tim Bryant wrote:\nHello. I've been a lurking member of the list for a\nfew months now.\nThough not a very auspicious topic for a first post,\nI wanted to let\nyou know that I reported the Wolfe audiobooks\nlisting to eBay. That\nmay be why the listing disappeared." }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Welcome to the list! I think you've given as important\na first post as anyone. Thanks for doing that and for\nreaffirming my faith in this list. Oh, and sorry\neveryone for the rant.\n\nDon\n\nThe Evangelists: a Lesser Apocrypha\nhttp://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=17\n8109961\n\n\n " } ] } ] }