Wiki? The Urth list — 4 messages, 3 voices, 20 Jun 2007 https://urth.darkrealm.vip/thread/urth/4860 Exported from an unofficial mirror of a public mailing list. Copyright in each message remains with the person who wrote it. Email addresses are obscured as `user at host`, the form the original archive published. This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact. ============================================================================== Mo Holkar / UKG — 20 Jun 2007, 12:56 Hi all, Did anything ever get done about the Wolfe wiki idea? If so, and stuff is in hand / under way, then brilliant. If not, though, then maybe this could be time to give it another kick onwards? I'm able to host and administer such a wiki myself, although I won't be able to do much in the way of populating it with material. If there are people who are keen and ready to get uploading Wolfeiana, then we could get started right away: I don't know what the critical mass of stuff would be for it to start being useful, but not a huge threshold I shouldn't think. best, Mo ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Daniel D Jones — 20 Jun 2007, 15:52 in reply to Mo Holkar / UKG > On Wednesday 20 June 2007 08:56, Mo Holkar / UKG wrote: > Hi all, > > Did anything ever get done about the Wolfe wiki idea? > > If so, and stuff is in hand / under way, then brilliant. > > If not, though, then maybe this could be time to give it another kick > onwards? > > I'm able to host and administer such a wiki myself, although I won't > be able to do much in the way of populating it with material. If > there are people who are keen and ready to get uploading Wolfeiana, > then we could get started right away: I don't know what the critical > mass of stuff would be for it to start being useful, but not a huge > threshold I shouldn't think. As near as I can tell, this is a project in search of a leader. If someone takes the initiative to get things configured and going, then there are a number of interested people who would likely take advantage of it. As to whether there's enough people to create a critical mass and create something useful or not is an open question. I don't think anyone will know until and unless someone is willing to get things going. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Matthew King — 20 Jun 2007, 20:40 in reply to Daniel D Jones > On Jun 20, 2007, at 10:52 AM, Daniel D Jones wrote: > On Wednesday 20 June 2007 08:56, Mo Holkar / UKG wrote: > > I'm able to host and administer such a wiki myself, although I won't > > be able to do much in the way of populating it with material. If > > there are people who are keen and ready to get uploading Wolfeiana, > > then we could get started right away: I don't know what the critical > > mass of stuff would be for it to start being useful, but not a huge > > threshold I shouldn't think. > As near as I can tell, this is a project in search of a leader. If > someone > takes the initiative to get things configured and going, then there > are a > number of interested people who would likely take advantage of it. > As to > whether there's enough people to create a critical mass and create > something > useful or not is an open question. I don't think anyone will know > until and > unless someone is willing to get things going. Let's pretend for the sake of discussion that we already have MediaWiki installed, and now we're deciding how to configure it. 1) Should the wiki be editable by anyone? Should we reserve editing to list members only? A halfway option would be to restrict a set of core pages to list members only to prevent vandalism, but to allow the unwashed masses to create and edit pages at the periphery. This would provide for reading journals or the like. 2) What kind of structure, if any, should the wiki start with? http://lostpedia.com provides a decent example of a full-fledged MediaWiki site. I like that they reserve wild speculation about episodes or characters to "theories" pages. 3) Who wants to be a moderator? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mo Holkar / UKG — 21 Jun 2007, 11:20 in reply to Matthew King > At 21:40 20/06/2007, Matthew King wrote: > Let's pretend for the sake of discussion that we already > have MediaWiki installed, and now we're deciding how to configure it. Unfortunately I'm not able to install MediaWiki on my hosting, because of the specific MySQL requirements it makes: so if that's a sine qua non, I'll have to withdraw my offer. My suggestion would be to use PmWiki, which has pretty similar functionality in the important areas: http://www.wikimatrix.org/compare/MediaWiki+PmWiki and I think should be fine for a small (numbers of people) project like this > 1) Should the wiki be editable by anyone? Should we reserve > editing to list members only? It's not going to be practical, AFAIK, to have membership of the wiki automatically (and securely) respond to changes in the list membership. List users are going to have to join the wiki separately. In which case I would say we should reserve editing to wiki members only. > A halfway option would be to restrict a set of core pages to > list members only to prevent vandalism, but to allow the unwashed > masses to create and edit pages at the periphery. This would > provide for reading journals or the like. I would personally tend to allow anyone who goes to the effort of joining the wiki to edit it, just as anyone who goes to the effort of joining this list can post to it. But I don't feel strongly about that: it's easy enough to have areas restricted to certain groups, etc, if that's felt necessary. > 2) What kind of structure, if any, should the wiki start with? > > http://lostpedia.com provides a decent example of a full-fledged > MediaWiki site. I like that they reserve wild speculation > about episodes or characters to "theories" pages. I have no strong views about structure. > 3) Who wants to be a moderator? I'm happy to moderate in the administrative sense, but I would prefer not to be involved in eg. mattes of quasi-academic dispute ;-) By the way, if people think this discussion should be taken off list, do please say, best, Mo Mo Holkar Undying King Games mo at ukg.co.uk http://www.ukg.co.uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------------