# Zen and Phaedria; the Great Genealogy Debate, a valedictory and post-mortem. *The Urth list — 1 messages, 1 voices, 10 Apr 1998* > Exported from an unofficial mirror of a public mailing list. Copyright > in each message remains with the person who wrote it. > Email addresses are obscured as `user at host`, the form the original > archive published. This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than > retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact. --- ### Robert Borski *10 Apr 1998, 21:27* John Bishop: ZEN AND THE ART OF MOTORCYCLE MAINTENANCE was published in 1974. The titular novella of TFHoC was published in 1972, first in Damon Knight's ORBIT series (#10, I believe). I'd also like to echo Tony Ellis at this point: Unlike the progenitor of the Saint Croix Wolfe clan I too fear the repetition element, and so I'm therefore not going to address anything further in defense of my earlier posts. THE FIFTH HEAD OF CEREBUS was published 26 years ago, and when the works of Gene Wolfe are discussed (especially here), it's usually the two newer Sun series that have been more vigorously addressed. It's been fun altering the flow a little. Thank you for your Devil's Advocacy, Tony Ellis, without which my screeds would have been more akin to solipsistic masturbation than analysis. At least now readers new to Wolfe or FIFTH HEAD will have additional material to supplement the enjoyment of what is unarguably a seminal work of sf by a master writer. I hereby yield the floor back to the solar branch and urth firsters of this list. Robert Borski ---