# Severian and Merryn *The Urth list — 3 messages, 3 voices, 04 Jul 2007* > Exported from an unofficial mirror of a public mailing list. Copyright > in each message remains with the person who wrote it. > Email addresses are obscured as `user at host`, the form the original > archive published. This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than > retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact. --- ### Maclean Jessica *04 Jul 2007, 23:16* Hi all Having also just re-read the The Claw of the Conciliator, I respectfully request some clarification on the Severian and Merryn twin-thing. I'm at work so don't have the book with me, but I just finished it last night so it's pretty fresh in my mind :-) Near the end of the book, it clearly states that Severian was a small boy (small enough to have to jump to reach the knocker) when he went to the Witches Tower, whereas Merryn looks "old" (to a small boy) and is really about 20 years of age. I accept that GW himself has stated that Merryn is probably Severian's sister (not sure if I have the probably bit right- please advise! :-) ), I'm just wondering how that works out... is it magic that Merryn appears the same age regardless of her actual age? Cos when Sev, Dorcas and Jolenta meet the Cumean, Merryn and Hildegrin atop Apu Punchau's building, the Cumean and Merryn look exactly the same as they did when little Sev delivered that letter, so long ago... On a maybe-not-related note, I can't help but wonder if Mr Wolfe deliberately left things vague in his own mind, in order to preserve some mystery for us readers? I always thought that the best way to keep things secret is not to know yourself, so you can't give it away... Jessica ________________________________________ Jessica Maclean Customer Liaison New Zealand Post ________________________________________ Tel: 0800 100 318 Fax: 0800 100 319 e-mail: jessica.maclean at nzpost.co.nz customerliaison@ nzpost.co.nz _______________________________________ Winners of GOLD at the coveted CRM Contact Centre Awards 2006 Smile, life is good! This email with any attachments is confidential and may be subject to legal privilege. If it is not intended for you please reply immediately, destroy it and do not copy, disclose or use it in any way. --- ### Roy C. Lackey *06 Jul 2007, 06:46 · follows Maclean Jessica* >> Jessica Maclean wrote: >> I accept that GW himself has stated that Merryn is probably Severian's >> sister (not sure if I have the probably bit right- please advise! :-) ), >> I'm just wondering how that works out... is it magic that Merryn appears >> the same age regardless of her actual age? Cos when Sev, Dorcas and >> Jolenta meet the Cumean, Merryn and Hildegrin atop Apu Punchau's >> building, the Cumean and Merryn look exactly the same as they did when >> little Sev delivered that letter, so long ago... << A number of people have commented on the apparent age discrepancy. The text gives no objective reason to account for the discrepancy, if Merryn is in fact supposed to be Severian's twin sister. Her cameo in _Short Sun_ does little to illuminate the subject. In fact, I have always suspected that her appearance there was a gesture, polite or otherwise, to the many queries Wolfe has received on the topic. There was no real need for her to be in that scene, and that may be the best proof we will ever get that she and Sev were siblings -- if they were. I doubt that Wolfe had _Short Sun_ mapped out when he wrote _New Sun_, so it's hard to say what he originally had in mind when he created the mystery. But if Merryn is indeed Sev's long-lost sister, it makes the solution to the mystery rather anticlimactic, don't you think? And it hangs the mandragora out to dry. -Roy --- ### Ian S *14 Jul 2007, 09:34 · in reply to Maclean Jessica* Hi Jessica, Quite an interesting question. Well, the answer to your query may be be quite simple. Merryn and the Cumean probably 'walk the corridors of time,' to borrow a Wolfensian phrase. That's why Merryn seems to be the same age when Severian met her at the tomb of Apu Punchau ( who is actually Severian from the future-past or the past-future ) as when he met her in the Witches Tower when he was a small boy, if indeed this Merryn is one in the same person. Merryn could have gone into the future, met Severian atop the tomb of Apu Punchau, than gone back to her own relative present day where she could have met the boy Severian at the Wiches Tower the next morning. I'm not saying this is what happened for certain, but it would be the sort of thing that Wolfe might write about. Through what means she may have carried this out ( or more significantly, why ) is debateable and we'll probably never find out, but I suspect it may have been done through devices similar to the one used by Rudesind to get to the House Absolute, though this device moved him through space, rather than through time. Please note the conversation between Severian and Rudesind in 'The Claw of the Conciliator' in Chapter 20, entitled 'Pictures:' " While ago you come looking for Ultan. Didn't you find him? " " Yes, I found him," I said. " But it wasn't a short time ago." He seemd to grow angry at that. " I didn't mean today! But it wasn't long...." I'm not too sure about the courtesan at the House Azure, though. For those interested, please refer to The Shadow of the Torturer, Chapter 9, for Severian's impressions that the Chatelaine Barbea and the Chatelaine Gracia might be the same person. Though ducking into a space/time device to change appearences and then zipping back to the moment you left is a bit unneccessary! If you're a fan of 'Lost,' this may also explain why Richard Alpert does not seem to age either. Ian > --- Maclean Jessica > wrote: > Hi all > > Having also just re-read the The Claw of the > Conciliator, I respectfully > request some clarification on the Severian and > Merryn twin-thing. I'm at > work so don't have the book with me, but I just > finished it last night > so it's pretty fresh in my mind :-) > > Near the end of the book, it clearly states that > Severian was a small > boy (small enough to have to jump to reach the > knocker) when he went to > the Witches Tower, whereas Merryn looks "old" (to a > small boy) and is > really about 20 years of age. > > I accept that GW himself has stated that Merryn is > probably Severian's > sister (not sure if I have the probably bit right- > please advise! :-) ), > I'm just wondering how that works out... is it magic > that Merryn appears > the same age regardless of her actual age? Cos when > Sev, Dorcas and > Jolenta meet the Cumean, Merryn and Hildegrin atop > Apu Punchau's > building, the Cumean and Merryn look exactly the > same as they did when > little Sev delivered that letter, so long ago... > > On a maybe-not-related note, I can't help but wonder > if Mr Wolfe > deliberately left things vague in his own mind, in > order to preserve > some mystery for us readers? I always thought that > the best way to keep > things secret is not to know yourself, so you can't > give it away... > > Jessica > > ________________________________________ > Jessica Maclean > Customer Liaison > New Zealand Post > ________________________________________ > Tel: 0800 100 318 Fax: 0800 100 319 > e-mail: jessica.maclean at nzpost.co.nz > customerliaison@ nzpost.co.nz > _______________________________________ > Winners of GOLD at the coveted CRM Contact Centre > Awards 2006 > > Smile, life is good! > This email with any attachments is confidential and > may be subject to legal privilege. > If it is not intended for you please reply > immediately, destroy it and do not copy, disclose or > use it in any way. >> _______________________________________________ ---