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This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact.", "addresses": "obscured as 'user at host'" }, "archive": "urth", "thread": { "id": 4890, "subject": "Why did Vodalus risk...?", "messages": 4, "voices": 4, "first": "2007-07-25T09:01:09+00:00", "last": "2007-07-26T05:02:56+00:00" }, "messages": [ { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "aaron", "address": "aaronsingleton at gmail.com" }, "date": "2007-07-25T09:01:09+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Why did Vodalus risk...?", "in_reply_to": null, "reply_link": null, "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "I have a question for you guys, and hopefully you can offer me some insight\nhere. I am on my umpteenth reread of TSotT, and I only just realized what a\ngreat risk Vodalus takes when he, Hildegrin, and Thea rob the grave in the\nnecropolis. My next thought was: Why would he take such a risk? Or, for\nWhom? Whose corpse did they take? Obviously, they wanted a particular\nperson's body, or else why would they go so far out of their way and (again)\ntake such a risk? And does Thea's presence there indicate anything?\nPerhaps a member of her family was their target. Why else would she tag\nalong on such a dangerous mission? Couldn't possibly be Thecla's body, as\nthat was my first thought. Sorry, but this is driving me up the wall!\nThanks to all in advance. If I come up with a good theory on the subject, I\nwill post it, but so far I have nothing.\n\nAaron Singleton" } ] }, { "message_id": "<8476d0320707251301s79d4413maf98d0b1e8f6dc95@mail.gmail.com>", "from": { "name": "Bruce Hayles", "address": "brucehayles at gmail.com" }, "date": "2007-07-25T20:01:32+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Why did Vodalus risk...?", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "In the opening chapter of Shadow, Thea says something to Vodalus that\nSeverian does not catch; Vodalus says in response, \"You didn't have to\ncome, Thea. How would it look to the others if I took none of the\nrisks?\"\nThis reminds me of generals fighting at the front of their army. By\ntaking the same risks as his men, he gains their respect.\nVodalus is also very prideful. He does not seriously appreciate the\ndanger of the watchmen. He disdains his earlier use of the gun, and\nwhen the watchmen are nearly upon them, gives the gun to Hildegrin,\nsaying that Hildegrin might need it. This is despite the fact that he\nmost desperately needs it, since he is holding off the watchmen. His\npride drives him needlessly to fight them with his sword. When\nSeverian saves him, he is repaid with a false coin.\nWives of generals would come along with them on risky campaigns, so\nThea coming along doesn't seem implausible, even if it is unnecessary\nfor the task.\nI think the explanation of Vodalus taking the risk is Vodalus's character." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On 7/25/07, aaron wrote:\nI have a question for you guys, and hopefully you can offer me some insight\nhere. I am on my umpteenth reread of TSotT, and I only just realized what a\ngreat risk Vodalus takes when he, Hildegrin, and Thea rob the grave in the\nnecropolis. My next thought was: Why would he take such a risk? Or, for\nWhom? Whose corpse did they take? Obviously, they wanted a particular\nperson's body, or else why would they go so far out of their way and (again)\ntake such a risk? And does Thea's presence there indicate anything?\nPerhaps a member of her family was their target. Why else would she tag\nalong on such a dangerous mission? Couldn't possibly be Thecla's body, as\nthat was my first thought. Sorry, but this is driving me up the wall!\nThanks to all in advance. If I come up with a good theory on the subject, I\nwill post it, but so far I have nothing.\n\nAaron Singleton\n_______________________________________________" } ] }, { "message_id": "<46A7E755.70202@io.com>", "from": { "name": "Jeff Wilson", "address": "jwilson at io.com" }, "date": "2007-07-26T00:14:13+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Why did Vodalus risk...?", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "aaron wrote:\nI have a question for you guys, and hopefully you can offer me some \ninsight here. I am on my umpteenth reread of TSotT, and I only just \nrealized what a great risk Vodalus takes when he, Hildegrin, and Thea \nrob the grave in the necropolis. My next thought was: Why would he take \nsuch a risk?" }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "My thought is that the body is that of a particularly loyal, devoted \nfollower, and he is there personally to secure it for use in further \nbinding and perhaps even converting people to his side with the alzabo \ndrug. A sufficiently powerful inherited personality may even turn a spy \nor double agent among the rebels to true allegiance." }, { "kind": "sig", "depth": 0, "text": "Jeff Wilson - jwilson at io.com\n< http://www.io.com/~jwilson >" } ] }, { "message_id": "<46A82B00.2040205@charter.net>", "from": { "name": "JWillard", "address": "aldenweer at charter.net" }, "date": "2007-07-26T05:02:56+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Why did Vodalus risk...?", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "aaron wrote:\nI have a question for you guys, and hopefully you can offer me some \ninsight here. I am on my umpteenth reread of TSotT, and I only just \nrealized what a great risk Vodalus takes when he, Hildegrin, and Thea \nrob the grave in the necropolis. My next thought was: Why would he \ntake such a risk? Or, for Whom? Whose corpse did they take? \nObviously, they wanted a particular person's body, or else why would \nthey go so far out of their way and (again) take such a risk? And \ndoes Thea's presence there indicate anything? Perhaps a member of her \nfamily was their target. Why else would she tag along on such a \ndangerous mission? Couldn't possibly be Thecla's body, as that was my \nfirst thought. Sorry, but this is driving me up the wall! Thanks to \nall in advance. If I come up with a good theory on the subject, I \nwill post it, but so far I have nothing.\n \nAaron Singleton\n\n------------------------------------------------------------------------\n\n_______________________________________________" } ] } ] }